Advantages & Disadvantages of a Tube amplifier vs. a Solid State amplifier.
10-25-2003, 08:11 PM
#32
Hi guys!
Interesting reading.
I'm running a Blade G1254 amp right now. Iwas going to purchase a Tube Driver Hybrid amp, but when I listened to it (against the blade on the same set up in the same environment I could not justify the difference to spend $2000c. It was definitly a BEAUTIFUL amp....still think about...dream about.......................oooppps dropped my wallet!
Interesting reading.
I'm running a Blade G1254 amp right now. Iwas going to purchase a Tube Driver Hybrid amp, but when I listened to it (against the blade on the same set up in the same environment I could not justify the difference to spend $2000c. It was definitly a BEAUTIFUL amp....still think about...dream about.......................oooppps dropped my wallet!
10-26-2003, 09:56 AM
#34
Originally posted by JohnVroom:
Chadxton- like your mother used to say "don’t do that your face could get stuck!"
I am a proud owner of a US Amps TU-4360. How does it sound? Awesome. Very neutral, great detail, pace and rhythm are there in spades, not tubey not transistory. I have not heard a better sounding amp (haven’t heard Audison, Milbert, Sinfoni, Brax, Tru, Linear Power though).
Chadxton- like your mother used to say "don’t do that your face could get stuck!"
I am a proud owner of a US Amps TU-4360. How does it sound? Awesome. Very neutral, great detail, pace and rhythm are there in spades, not tubey not transistory. I have not heard a better sounding amp (haven’t heard Audison, Milbert, Sinfoni, Brax, Tru, Linear Power though).
10-27-2003, 05:36 PM
#37
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Well, what is pace and rhythm, easier to talk about then define. I first heard the term used for audio in Stereophile (http://www.stereophile.com/showarchives.cgi?23)
The crux of the issue is in the first paragraph
"Martin Colloms (footnote 1) suggests: does the component dilute the recording's musical meaning?". Pace and rhythm are the ebb and flow of the music, if you have ever heard a poorly set/designed Q (or the dreaded one note bass or an over damped system) then even though the RTA is flat as a table the music will sound ... er...unfun. When you buy new gear there is always the "does this thing rock?" test... does it make you tap your feet etc. IMHO the music that best embodies this effect is Latin music or the Beastie Boys.
The crux of the issue is in the first paragraph
"Martin Colloms (footnote 1) suggests: does the component dilute the recording's musical meaning?". Pace and rhythm are the ebb and flow of the music, if you have ever heard a poorly set/designed Q (or the dreaded one note bass or an over damped system) then even though the RTA is flat as a table the music will sound ... er...unfun. When you buy new gear there is always the "does this thing rock?" test... does it make you tap your feet etc. IMHO the music that best embodies this effect is Latin music or the Beastie Boys.
10-27-2003, 09:12 PM
#39
500 Watt CAFz'r
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Join Date: May 2000
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Music consists of rythm, harmonies, and melodies. A decent home or car audio system should reproduce all of these elements of music with minimal distortion. If it does infact reproduce these elements, you will get a sensation of "happiness" while listening to your system. It will make you feel "wonderful", "sensational", "fantastic". It should "move you emotionally" when listening to your favorite songs.
A decent stereo system should (and you may think I'm crazy for saying this) "improve your life". Otherwise, there is no point in spending so much money, time and effort. You will yearn to listen to it when you're away from it.
Pace and rythm, as JohnVroom mentioned above, is an important part of all of this.
A decent stereo system should (and you may think I'm crazy for saying this) "improve your life". Otherwise, there is no point in spending so much money, time and effort. You will yearn to listen to it when you're away from it.
Pace and rythm, as JohnVroom mentioned above, is an important part of all of this.
10-29-2003, 12:33 AM
#40
Good to hear a bunch of ppl into Tubes. But how come everyone left out Sonic Frontiers from the home audio list? Canadian and amazing sounging! Too bad they're not making them anymore. I have been listening to my Butlers for a tad over two years now and have not found a more natural sounding amp. I'm not in for the super sharp highs and don't expect them to push the subs (solid states are fine for subs). The butlers, although hybrid, do carry a noticeable tube characteristic and it brings out the vocals just beautifully. I haven't heard another solidstate to match... not audison nor mcintosh. But music being so subjective... well, ya. I'd like to hear a milbert though... but hard to come by.
And although I truly love my tubes, I'll be listing them in the for sale because of financial reasons. Quite sad I have to give them up... >(
And although I truly love my tubes, I'll be listing them in the for sale because of financial reasons. Quite sad I have to give them up... >(
