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Old 04-24-2010, 02:11 PM   #1
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I'm slowly building a SQ system in my Honda Civic 4dr. What I have now is 5 1/4" and tweaters in the lower front corner of the front doors and 4 1/2" mid and tweater in the rear deck for rear fill and a JL 12W3V3 sub in a sealed box rear firing in the trunk. I'm running the mids and highs with a JL 300/4V2 and the sub with 500/1V2. I've set the front speakers to full volume and until they just start to distort and then turned it back a little to keep a clear sound at any volume level. The rears I control with the HU and have them set about 5-7db lower than the fronts. Plus I have the amp gain turned down all the way. The front speakers are JL C5 components. Very nice sounding. What suggestions would you make to get the sound stage up higher in the car and out front as if it were outside?

Keep in mind I'm not selling my car and buying another just for this SQ project. I want to make use of this Civic since I'm the sole driver of it and use it everyday for commuting. I want to listen to a good quality system and enjoy my ride before walking into a house of screaming kids and a wife who looks like she hasn't slept in a week. And that comment suggests a budget. Also keep that in mind.
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might i suggest a nice set of 3-ways for the front? and put the lows in the kicks and the mids and tweets on the dash? if you have the time to fabricae this it would bring the sound stage up alot rather then having your mids down low..
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might i suggest a nice set of 3-ways for the front? and put the lows in the kicks and the mids and tweets on the dash? if you have the time to fabricae this it would bring the sound stage up alot rather then having your mids down low..
Thats a nice thing to suggest but not always easy to execute due to the design of the interiors on some some vehicles. I think the important question to know here is what model of civic are you driving, hatch, sedan or coupe and what year is it? In my old 91' hatch and 90' sedan I ran a simple 2way canton 6 1/2 inch component set in the front with the mid mounted to a lightly modified door panel and the tweets mounted up on the far left and right coners on the dash firing up at the glass and that gave me excellent results. Currently I am running a 3 way system in my 02 civic couple with decent results, i had the mid/tweet mounted in pods on the dash for a while because I had just enough space to do it and the midbass mounted in the factory door location. Recently I moved the mid range drivers down to the kicks but I plan to mive them back up to the A pillar in the near future. Anyway enough of my rambling, the point is you should try some experementaion in your own car and see what works best for you and your car.

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hes driving a sedan and what you did with your hatchback i plan on doing with my 93 coupe to start off then i'm probably going to be going to a 3-way set up in the future
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hes driving a sedan and what you did with your hatchback i plan on doing with my 93 coupe to start off then i'm probably going to be going to a 3-way set up in the future
What 3 way setup are you planning on running, specifically what midrange and tweet will you be using?
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Thanks for the suggestions. It is giving me ideas on what I can do. My limitation is my experience at custom interior work. I'm driving a '96 civic 4dr sedan. I've been looking at the black triangle piece at the front of the upper door for tweater location. I feel I can get them in there and aimed just right. There might even be enough room for a 3 1/2" in there. I like the idea of the dash mount. I had a '87 VW Jetta 15 years ago with dash mount mids and tweats. From what I recall, it sounded pretty good. Firing off the glass did make for some other sounds that I learned to live with. But speakers have come a long way since then. Already concidered putting the midbass in the stock door location. The doors already have extensive deadening inside and would compliment the midbass. I could even seal the skin to the sheet metal to help eliminate any possible cancelation.

Was tuning my system with a test disk and 300hz. Fried a 5 1/4" door mid. either the speaker was defective or it sustained damage prior. Volume was at 60% when it went all scratchy. I have set the amp to give a clear sound at full volume on the HU. It shouldn't have blown. Smells rather toasty. YUK! It's only 2 weeks old.
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Anyone know what the sound differences are in the JL Audio C5 compaired to the C2? C2's would fit nicely in the doors but I'm afraid the sound quality won't be there.
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Been playing with the speaker angle and finding interesting results. What tipped me to angle the mids and tweets was when I was doing some work on the car and had the doors open 3/4. The sound was pretty good coming from that angle. The distance from the door to my ear probably helped fill dead zones as well. Anyway, I am pleased with the direction it's going and will keep the posts coming.
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What 3 way setup are you planning on running, specifically what midrange and tweet will you be using?
well right now i'm planning on using the eclipse 8365's powered by an eclipse xa4200
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