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2chains 04-15-2011 03:04 PM

Buying at Visions question
 
Hi folks
looking to buy double din from "Visions" with their newest sale. after checking out sonix/online car/crutchfield sites Visions have lowest price after you factor in shipping/tax etc. anyone dealt with Visions know how much, if any, they'll come down in price from sale price? any info would be appreciated!

goalie 35 04-16-2011 12:55 PM

great company to buy from.. would love to work there again... Jody if anything comes up in saskatoon let me know

2chains 04-16-2011 02:45 PM

Do sales staff work on commission?

Number 2 04-16-2011 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by goalie 35 (Post 651099)
great company to buy from.. would love to work there again... Jody if anything comes up in saskatoon let me know


He is no longer with the company as of April 1st.

Number 2 04-16-2011 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 2chains (Post 651041)
Hi folks
looking to buy double din from "Visions" with their newest sale. after checking out sonix/online car/crutchfield sites Visions have lowest price after you factor in shipping/tax etc. anyone dealt with Visions know how much, if any, they'll come down in price from sale price? any info would be appreciated!

You can often get the sales staff to come down a bit on price but it always depends on the peice. Your best bet is to go into the store. When customers call looking for deals they are far less likely to give one to someone who won't even commit to driving down to a location. It only makes sense to buy locally. It's cheaper, you can pick it up that day, if you have a warranty problem you can take care of it right in the city.
The staff is commission based. I worked there for years and have no shame about it. They are happy to help because they want your business.
Not like the company of smurfs. "No Commission, No pressure". But god help you if you actually want some help in the store. Nobody cares other than to start ramming extended warranty down your throat before you even know you if you want a plasma or lcd.

2chains 04-16-2011 05:12 PM

Number 2;thanks for the reply, no shame in working for a living...but yeah my experience with co. of smurfs basically can't trust their word you have to educate yourself first, it's buyer beware out there. They want to sell $125 warranty for $650 item..might be worth it to some i guess

wasted911 04-16-2011 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Number 2 (Post 651103)
He is no longer with the company as of April 1st.

Curious to know who this is????

goalie 35 04-17-2011 06:54 PM

really i thought Jody was number two son behind Rick Stewart.. ps.. still want to come home to sask.

AyZe 04-17-2011 07:28 PM

on a set of 900$ subs(t112d4's) they knocked little less than 40 a sub off..
and as far as warranty ... ye u get one but i also got a GRAND run around wen one of them came apart inside... got to the point were the guy was gonna tell me it had somthing to do with my dble baffle...at which point i said figure it out and walked away.
Never again :)

but thats 1 location , not the chain.

leagumdrops 04-19-2011 04:14 AM

i got a the pioneer 3200bt for $425 from there

goalie 35 04-19-2011 01:45 PM

why is it if a store dosent drop its pants for the customer on price, they are a bad store to deal with.. i try to help the sales guys out all the time on this. they are so scared to loose a sale to price instead of selling the product on its merrits.. the deck retails for 299now its up to a good salesman to let you know why its worth 299.. not 279 not 249. 299.,. if we all thought this way our profit margins wouldnt be so bad and we would attract better salesmen and they would stay do to great income. to make this point even clearer...... when was the last time you went to the keg and argued about the price of the steak dinner you just ate,,, you know i can go down to mr. mikes and get a steak for 20% less.... dosent happen. or buying shoes at sport chek... 149,99 is the price.. no discounting.. its only in our industry do we do this.. is visions bad... no more so than any other retailer..part of my job is to teach people how to sell and this is, by far the biggest hurtel that salesman have to overcome.. value vs precevied value..

Number 2 04-19-2011 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by goalie 35 (Post 651255)
why is it if a store dosent drop its pants for the customer on price, they are a bad store to deal with.. i try to help the sales guys out all the time on this. they are so scared to loose a sale to price instead of selling the product on its merrits.. the deck retails for 299now its up to a good salesman to let you know why its worth 299.. not 279 not 249. 299.,. if we all thought this way our profit margins wouldnt be so bad and we would attract better salesmen and they would stay do to great income. to make this point even clearer...... when was the last time you went to the keg and argued about the price of the steak dinner you just ate,,, you know i can go down to mr. mikes and get a steak for 20% less.... dosent happen. or buying shoes at sport chek... 149,99 is the price.. no discounting.. its only in our industry do we do this.. is visions bad... no more so than any other retailer..part of my job is to teach people how to sell and this is, by far the biggest hurtel that salesman have to overcome.. value vs precevied value..

It's just not like it used to be. There used to be lots of good, educated sales staff and as things turned into a race to zero more good sales staff flee because they have to eat, therefore it turns more into a "best price is all that matters" game. It's a downward spiral. I used to be so proud to explain why we were among the highest remote start/combo pricing in the city, showing off a bay full of nice cars and experienced installers, who all had big Snap On chests.

n_o_s_21 04-19-2011 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by goalie 35 (Post 651255)
why is it if a store dosent drop its pants for the customer on price, they are a bad store to deal with.. i try to help the sales guys out all the time on this. they are so scared to loose a sale to price instead of selling the product on its merrits.. the deck retails for 299now its up to a good salesman to let you know why its worth 299.. not 279 not 249. 299.,. if we all thought this way our profit margins wouldnt be so bad and we would attract better salesmen and they would stay do to great income. to make this point even clearer...... when was the last time you went to the keg and argued about the price of the steak dinner you just ate,,, you know i can go down to mr. mikes and get a steak for 20% less.... dosent happen. or buying shoes at sport chek... 149,99 is the price.. no discounting.. its only in our industry do we do this.. is visions bad... no more so than any other retailer..part of my job is to teach people how to sell and this is, by far the biggest hurtel that salesman have to overcome.. value vs precevied value..

yes but visions gaurantees the lowest price. If I can get it online for cheaper, I should be able to get it at visions cheaper too. I know that visions "cost" really isn't their cost. Because big box stores buy in bulk, their cost is usually a good chunk of change less then what they are telling you it is, or perhaps even telling their employees what it is.....

2chains 04-19-2011 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by goalie 35 (Post 651255)
why is it if a store dosent drop its pants for the customer on price, they are a bad store to deal with.. i try to help the sales guys out all the time on this. they are so scared to loose a sale to price instead of selling the product on its merrits.. the deck retails for 299now its up to a good salesman to let you know why its worth 299.. not 279 not 249. 299.,. if we all thought this way our profit margins wouldnt be so bad and we would attract better salesmen and they would stay do to great income. to make this point even clearer...... when was the last time you went to the keg and argued about the price of the steak dinner you just ate,,, you know i can go down to mr. mikes and get a steak for 20% less.... dosent happen. or buying shoes at sport chek... 149,99 is the price.. no discounting.. its only in our industry do we do this.. is visions bad... no more so than any other retailer..part of my job is to teach people how to sell and this is, by far the biggest hurtel that salesman have to overcome.. value vs precevied value..

i don't mind paying what a product is worth, the issue i have is that i see regular prices in USA for much cheaper even though the CAN dollar is $1.04

Dukk 04-20-2011 03:12 PM

^ There's other factors that play into that but yes I personally lean towards brands that are at least in the same neighborhood of US pricing (maybe 20% premium here)

Some brands are completely rediculous in this respect.

goalie 35 04-20-2011 04:49 PM

us to cnd pricing i cant contol that, things like nafta, and other trade agreements play a huge role in that. also its what the market will bear.. look at how long we got shafted on car prices, until 2008 we were getting hosed huge, the gap is still there but much smaller and hopefully will start to go the other way soon.. as far as electronics go. our free trade deal with overseas is not as lucrative as the us as they buy 100x more gear than imported to canada thats one reason the same gear in cnd vs usa, is different


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