I wonder if this is true? I guess we will see tomorrow. :D ;) ;)

[ September 20, 2003, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: NTOXKTD ]

A little birdie told me that Paul and Team Perftect Tones have 2 BROKEN subs! :D [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

wasnt it 4 ?

Actually we broke a total of 7 subs and 1 amp


We took out

3 Treo CSX 18's
2 Team RF 15's
2 American Bass 15's

and

1 Visonik V400xd


Do you all want to see pictures?

no, we want to see more broken subs.

Yea Pictures would be great. I left just after I saw a few people carring in subs into the store, hehe.

Although it may seem that breaking stuff is cool, it's actually not. Sometimes it's a manufacturing defect but generally speaking, when the system that the equipment is installed into is designed properly as a total package, things don't poop right away. Blowing up things usually means something is either wrong with the design as a whole or that your purposely abusing gear to kill it.............

Well we know for a fact that our design, our wiring and our know how is not the problem.


We folded a cone on one of the treo woofers because the cone was a older cone and not built very well

The other 2 Treo subs blew because they saw a striaght DC signal not there fault the amp/deck had some problems

The Team RF 15'' subs blew because they were built very poorly, it seemed that who ever built them could not afford to buy glue so he decided to not use very much on all the glue joints. Basically both spiders on both subs broke around there glue joints. POOR CONSTRUCTION!!!!

The 2 15'' American bass woofers have a weak former which folded with 20 000watts of power on them after about .1 second of a burp. but we did do a 157.7 with a single 15'' (-:


One thing we have found in our testing is that The Beyond Audio - Inhumans will not break under these exact conditions. We have done 50+ burps on our 18's with this power, box, and tone and they seem to hold together true there not the loudest but they don't break at all

Just a question that peeks my interest. I hear all these great reviews about Beyond Audio Inhumans but is it not true that they have been discontinued? :confused:

The problem isn't with the Inhuman's being a bad sub. Don just ran in to parts problem that made it impossible for him to continue making them. :(