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so i competed a decent amount the past season in an 02 ford escape.. hit usually anywhere at the end of the season from 147-148 in street b... which isnt bad but not that great and thats with 5k watts... so i figure i could get another 5k watt amp and work on my box since im still using a regular slot ported box and i should end up around 150.. but even that isnt a very good score.. so im thinkin if i wanna get loud im gonna have to have a different vehicle for it.. cheapest and easiest option is obviously a crx..

so i'm thinkin do i continue with the hobby and get a crx for next season or just keep goin with my escape and be quieter or do i scrap it all together and put monies towards something smart like buying a second house or maybe a second car that i can build up and use for street/strip (use to do that with a mustang)

u can get 150 without the extra 5K I figure.
CRX's are for bitches:p
Oh and if I was you, I would waste the money on booze, hookers and strippers... who needs SPL'Z anyway hahaha

lol ya maybe.. i had a buddy build an spl box for me.. and my score dropped even with a bit of tuning.. im not saying it isnt possible but i am saying that for the effort it would take me to get it to do 150 i would rather go spend $500-2g on a rex and throw my in there and have way more potential..

and wasting the money on booze, and rec drugs is a given... for the hookers and strippers.. come on.. you've seen me.. i'm way too pretty to need to pay for it :la:

Lol, that's funny. What type of spl box was built for you, got any pics? Maybe we can help get you louder with that rig after all. I have looked at those vehicles when we had them in the shop and they looked like they had some potential to get pretty loud.
BTW, what gear are you running? Batt, amps, subs?

I attached an image of the box.. in the pic that wasnt how it was loudest.. it was loudest with the ports outside of the box but i tried everything.. with the box in its loudest position it was still 1.5db's quieter than my slot port.. image of the slot port also attached..

bat - powermaster D3100
amp - AB 500.1
subs - DD 9912f's

ok your too pretty I give ya that, but strippers and hookers know there way around apole really well. DUDE that should twangin 150! That is a decent vehicle and good gear. Did waggy build the box?
You could always cheat and buy IOULI's rex

ya i saw he had that for sale.. but if i was buyin a rex i'd buy somethin cheap...

and ya waggy built both boxes

LOL y dont you just build a bunch and test the outta them? he got pretty decent numbers dont see why u wouldnt. I dont think u would power the ab 500.1's to great extent having two of them. Well not if you wanna stay St B!

ya i have already tested a ton with what i have.. and sure he got decent numbers but the explorer and the escape are quite different inside... plus my passenger seat doesnt even barely go forward.. thats a huge hinder for the score right there.. and regarding the amps i cant understand what you are saying.. must be early drinking for new years

Ya I gues inside could play a bit of a roll with the seat and all.
LOL I just re read it, it made sense.
If you stay in St B you can only have 1battery you arent gonna power 2 500.1 to full extent with 1 battery. I dunno would u gain the near 3db needed by adding one more?

with the d3100 i would definitely gain by adding another amp.. but obviously need a ton of more wire as well.. i'd probably go to like 149 and then playing with the box and more tuning maybe get 150 to 151... so with another amp and wire thats another grand.. to be at like 149ish..

with just a $500 crx i could be at 150 easy..and have way more potential to get closer to 155 with a second amp

there comes a point where ur car becomes more of an spl vehicle than a daily driver. Even in street. Multiple runs of wire through the interior, panels breaking/ comin loose from the bass isnt that cool in a daily driver.

You still have your 2512s and m1 which did decent daily in the escape...id keep those and get a rex. your 9912s and 2 500.1s will do 153+ with the first box made on the first day of tuning.

I agree with brian, my car for daily driver/spl has takin a kickin LOL. I always breakin and runs of 1/0 ****s with the back seat.
153+_ is pretty damn nice score outta the box so to speak!

Do you need to stay in Street B? You could always add a couple more batteries in the back to boost you into Street C with those amps and subs. If Dustin is competing, he'll probably beat you, but who else is there in that class in BC? Me?
I am buying myself a POS wagon for my Z2LV and a couple of 9512's. I just bought 4 Kinetic 2400's for my C set-up. We could compete! I don't want to play with myself. Play with me Craig!??!!?

maybe I will come over to c:p
naw I dont like gettin beat that much!
good question is waggy competing this year???

I don't know. I hope so. He's been an inspiration to many.

you cant have 4 batts for C though can you?

and to clarify, word on the street is that waggy will be competing this year but that is only his opinion today.. and the lazyness could kick in and change his mind but he says he is going to..

and i wont go into C.. even if i did it would make me wanna get a new vehicle dedicated to spl even more just cuz it would require even more gear

i'm ruling out a cuz i have a batt that is too big.. if i went in anything else it would be something like a wall class or something but i doubt it..

I think you should get a dedicated spl car......not neccisarily a crx tho. Everybody and their dog has a crx to compete in. it's easy dbs for sure, but where's the challange???? or even the awe factor????? We turned alot of heads this year, both Erin and I with what we brought to the mic. Many 150+ db runs at 41 hz is pretty amazing without having to replace ANY gear. You need to do something just a little different.....pm me if you want some ideas I have.......

only allowed 2 batts under 800 cubic inches in street C. With all those batts you would be in SS-nw. (superstreet no-wall) which is an awesome class in my opinion. However, not much competition there either. Killer amp though...should try it on 16 volts ;)
The word on the street is correct. Its all been decided. Been building for weeks now secretely. 160+ in SS5+ and 156+ in bassrace...daily driven. Extremely pumped for the 09 season.

However I do have my box from 07 finals (and woofers) aswell as my 08 box (and woofers) which were louder. If someone wanted to build a loud suv....they would also work well in a crx:cheeky4:

i also think if ur gunna switch vehicles that we should put a bit of work into the escape to get it above 150. Just to show it who's boss!

I am one of those people who had an suv and tried to get it loud for 3 years and then finally got a rex.

So let me tell you this, if you havent broken 150 in your suv, dont go buy a crx, it will be a HUGE waste for you. Im not cuttng you up, but obviously you have many more things to learn. CRX doesnt mean instant loud, i bet you wont be more than db louder in a crx than your suv if you just transfer all the gear, and maybe make a better box.

get your suv to 152'ish and then consider a crx. otherwise you'd be doing 151 WITH a crx, which is pretty hurting.

my grand cherokee did 151 with a single 10 and one 3k amp. guess what my crx did when i put the same set up into it? lol 151 db exactly.

with 2 10's and two 3k amps my jeep did 152.5, with 2 10's and same pair of 3k amps my crx did 153.5 (which is kinda hurting for a crx considering a Yaris can do 154+). This was all in 2007.

Only after I've gotten my jeep to do over 153 with with a pair of 10's I actually fully switched to the crx. I can tell you that at the most, a crx is 2 db's louder than any mid size suv with the same gear, and thats ONLY if you know 110% what you are doing.

get the escape to do 151 with one amp and 152+ with 2 amps and then consider a crx.

so yuli and brian agree.. work on the escape a bit more.. well my weakness is obviously my box since it isnt even meant for spl.. but building a box for the escape will definitely not work in a rex since their frequencies will be off by about 10hz.. sure you would learn from it but at the same time i'd be better off putting research into a rex

oh yah u dont put the same box in an suv as you do in a crx, thats a given. a crx and your car wont have a 10hz peak differance. you can always retune the box too. you'd have to make a totally different box altogether.

what is your note and what imp are your drivers?

my peak frequency is 47hz right now.. (47 and 49 are very close but 47 seems best) figured a rex would be more like 60

i know my peak is low but like i said, its cuz the box i am using right now is meant more for daily..

imp of the drivers is dual 1ohm

47 not that bad. My neon peak is about 46hz. most I ever gottin her to peak at was 49hz LOL cuz of weather though!

even with a high tuned box your vehicle peaked in the 45-48 hz range.

the rex i built peaked at 59-60 hz. Makes enclosure design much easier because you can get much more port area and still fit the port length within the vehicle.

you need to try another 10 boxes. by then you should know how to get your suv over 150 with one amp. I bet that car can do 151'ish with one 12 and two amps.