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carstereoguy 05-16-2009 10:23 PM

opinion on idatalink bypass modules
 
ive been installing for 22 years and ive installed quite a few of these modules and there hasnt been too many problems with them.
i have an 07 impala and im using a compustar pro with a blade with the gm3 ring.
i called them and theyt made me a special software cause when the bcm goes to sleep when i arm it it wouldnt lock the doors.
so we put a delay on the lock command. now every now and then i arm it and the doors dont lock so unless im beside my car im not sure if my doors are locked.
i called them a few times and dont really have time to play with that so imgoing to redo my alarm starter combo using a bypasskit module that only does the passlock and pk3 no more data. im not sure if its the fact that i have a gmlan 01 that may interfere cause i did more impala and no problem. just wondering if somebody has had the same problem cause if im away from the car somebody could open the door and steal stuff out of it even if the alarm is sounding. i need my car to be protected 100 percent not 90-95 percent thanks

godzilla1978 05-17-2009 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by carstereoguy (Post 484775)
ive been installing for 22 years and ive installed quite a few of these modules and there hasnt been too many problems with them.
i have an 07 impala and im using a compustar pro with a blade with the gm3 ring.
i called them and theyt made me a special software cause when the bcm goes to sleep when i arm it it wouldnt lock the doors.
so we put a delay on the lock command. now every now and then i arm it and the doors dont lock so unless im beside my car im not sure if my doors are locked.
i called them a few times and dont really have time to play with that so imgoing to redo my alarm starter combo using a bypasskit module that only does the passlock and pk3 no more data. im not sure if its the fact that i have a gmlan 01 that may interfere cause i did more impala and no problem. just wondering if somebody has had the same problem cause if im away from the car somebody could open the door and steal stuff out of it even if the alarm is sounding. i need my car to be protected 100 percent not 90-95 percent thanks


Nope never had that issue before, normally when they give the custom firmware it works very well. I would give them another chance and if it doesn't work I would just use the traditional method of locking\unlocking the doors. They factory alarm is only armed/disarmed with the remote, So go directly to the lock and unlock wires. The doors will be locked everytime. No alarm, but if they've got past the locked doors it's already to late!

selective sound 05-19-2009 09:24 AM

I had an issue like this on a Cadillac cts and I called them and they made me a custom firmware but it did the same thing as your did, it would lock the doors sometime but not always. I took out the bypass and put in a Fortin bypass module and it works flawlessley. I've had a few different vehicles have issues with the idatalink bypasses, so I switched to Fortin and never had any issues since.

carstereoguy 05-19-2009 08:17 PM

selective sound thanks for the reply
this year ive had the most little problems related to the bypass modules lookinfg at fortin as an alternative what do you guys use

selective sound 05-20-2009 09:04 AM

I mainly use Fortin bypass modules and I'll keep some bypass kits as well that I know work good. The Fortin Cansl2 and Keyoveride all are 2 of the best bypasses out there.

xtremeDAN 05-20-2009 09:48 PM

so far with the i data bypasses they are good when they work but when something goes wrong it seems that switching is the only way to go. i would agree 100% that the can sl2 and keyoverride all are great moduals and there never seems to be an issues with them. as well as the intsl. but with that one i have found that everyonce and a while it will not do rearming or rap controll. but both are simple to do with out data.

Sikk Nation 06-15-2009 08:45 PM

pull the module and re-flash it. they have fixed the issue now with an update

carstereoguy 06-15-2009 10:32 PM

ive tried that and was told that the new firmware was better but i think that it may be an overload on the databus cause of my gmlan-01 but for some reason one of my customer has the same set up and had the same problem so i reflashed the module 3 times with different firmware but when i went to the can sl2 no problem at all.
i love idatalink cause 2 module is all i need for most vehicule but for my own vehicule i may have to go with a different bypass

Sikk Nation 06-15-2009 11:43 PM

okay yeah.. GM's seem to only tolerate 1 add on to the data stream. I've had that problem a few times with Steerign wheel controls and remote starters. In your case, use the bypasskit. or ditch the GMlan.

carstereoguy 06-16-2009 09:35 PM

so you dont think if i use the can-sl2 it that it will work
i have the gm-lan01
swi-jack to be installed and the can-sl2
whats your favorite 2 way alar starter combo

Sikk Nation 06-16-2009 10:00 PM

with GM's some work, some get freaked out and have intermittent issues with 2 adapters on the canbus line.

My favourite alarm/starter compbo is the Compustar pro with the Blade bypass modules.

godzilla1978 06-17-2009 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Sikk Nation (Post 492919)
with GM's some work, some get freaked out and have intermittent issues with 2 adapters on the canbus line.

My favourite alarm/starter compbo is the Compustar pro with the Blade bypass modules.

Whats the differance between the pro's and the regular one's(I have a regular one) Is it just the temp and voltage feed back on the remote? remote timed start?

Sikk Nation 06-17-2009 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by godzilla1978 (Post 493063)
Whats the differance between the pro's and the regular one's(I have a regular one) Is it just the temp and voltage feed back on the remote? remote timed start?

Pretty much it. and the need for an OP900 to program then which makes them more secure and quicker to program for installers. Also for Mazda's you can set them to recognize open cirvuit door triggers, so need to wire up bunches of diodes to the OEM harness to get a signal.

carstereoguy 06-17-2009 12:12 PM

what do you mean more secure with the op900

Sikk Nation 06-17-2009 01:41 PM

as far as anyone else re-programming it or messing up settings. Which in my 8+ years in the game I've seen other shops do while checking something else out in order to sell a new alarm system. I really the blade modules since you can program the module an ht eocmpustar all on a computer before isntall. Just need to program the remotes after :)

godzilla1978 06-17-2009 02:52 PM

Sorry for the thread jacking but just one more question.:dunno:


Originally Posted by Sikk Nation (Post 493068)
Pretty much it. and the need for an OP900 to program then which makes them more secure and quicker to program for installers. Also for Mazda's you can set them to recognize open cirvuit door triggers, so need to wire up bunches of diodes to the OEM harness to get a signal.

Do you have to use a OP900 because we have an OP500 and had issue's with a Compustar Pro that a customer brought in(and I'd also like to upgrade mine when I get my new car!)

Sikk Nation 06-17-2009 04:09 PM

for the Pro's yeah youy need an OP900 to get to all the extra featurs the pro has over the regular. OR just program it with a blade module on idatalink's website. It lets you program the bypass, as well as the compustar all from a PC/laptop

godzilla1978 06-18-2009 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Sikk Nation (Post 493141)
for the Pro's yeah youy need an OP900 to get to all the extra featurs the pro has over the regular. OR just program it with a blade module on idatalink's website. It lets you program the bypass, as well as the compustar all from a PC/laptop

Good to know! Thanks

remotestart God 07-22-2009 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by carstereoguy (Post 492913)
so you dont think if i use the can-sl2 it that it will work
i have the gm-lan01
swi-jack to be installed and the can-sl2
whats your favorite 2 way alar starter combo

Have you tried disconnecting you GM Lan 01 to see if that unit was causing a problem?

Maybe the issue you have with your bypass module is caused by the gm Lan 01...

Danny Prezeau 07-24-2009 11:42 AM

solution
 

Originally Posted by carstereoguy (Post 484775)
ive been installing for 22 years and ive installed quite a few of these modules and there hasnt been too many problems with them.
i have an 07 impala and im using a compustar pro with a blade with the gm3 ring.
i called them and theyt made me a special software cause when the bcm goes to sleep when i arm it it wouldnt lock the doors.
so we put a delay on the lock command. now every now and then i arm it and the doors dont lock so unless im beside my car im not sure if my doors are locked.
i called them a few times and dont really have time to play with that so imgoing to redo my alarm starter combo using a bypasskit module that only does the passlock and pk3 no more data. im not sure if its the fact that i have a gmlan 01 that may interfere cause i did more impala and no problem. just wondering if somebody has had the same problem cause if im away from the car somebody could open the door and steal stuff out of it even if the alarm is sounding. i need my car to be protected 100 percent not 90-95 percent thanks

I am not super technical and surely not even close to being able to do and install. But, I am told we have a solution for your vehicle. CANSLPL and a TB-GM2 will solve your problem. As I understand there is issues with the BCM going to sleep and also staying awake and draining the battery if the vehicle is not a daily driver. Also, the Compustar has a data port so the install should be easy. Hope this is helpful. Cheers, Danny

carstereoguy 07-24-2009 11:35 PM

hey danny its marc bertrand from renfrew its been awhile ive changed the module to an idatalink tb instead the only thing the bypass module does is the passlock t i wanted top keep it as a blade since the install was done same harness otherwise i would have and may still go with the fortin module i have them here as well. i hear you are back in montreal good luck as a rep hope everything is well


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