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Stepside 06-23-2006 12:02 PM

$1,500 Budget
 
Sup guys.

This might seem really vague considering most of you peeps are hardcore audiophiles, but I'm just looking for some good advice.

I'm looking at getting a new stereo from my car, but I don't know a thing about Car Audio. Looking for some recommendations and not getting scammed by a retailer.

I drive: 2004 Civic Si

Budget: $1,500 CDN, so obviously not the super high-end stuff

Music Tastes:
  • Drum N Bass
  • HipHop
  • Punk
  • House
  • Jazz
So, pretty bass heavy stuff I guess.

I'm very big into Sound Clarity, not head-turning bass or anything.
Anybody have any ideas on good manufacturers, brands, stores? Is a small audio-specialty store going to give me better stuff for my dollar than say Best Buy? Any help would be appreciated.

Killer_klown187 06-23-2006 12:23 PM

now with that being said...
Best buy has JBL subs, one 12" in a basswerx box..isn't to bad of a price and MY WORD does it thump...I was super impressed..
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0 C7EA3162B2658C9C3AEACAD768EC7BC97BB1C7A3FD50FF1393 CA0D7DC0F7A3E023AC3631943F5F3BE9375E487BBA1A3E03B5 B0366FB268AA8B328ECD1C432D07A97DE97C377A9B6456477A AE9405ABF8C9586C01CD21279205C46A298920C5F4B89AEDA9 AC65171C73F5ED2B8C5EC992AC3CD2B614&sku_id=0926INGF S10063642&catid=20119

and as for an amp..you have several choices..the new kenwood mono will make that badboy fly pretty good..
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0 C7EA3162B2658C9C3AEACAD768EC7BC97BB1C7A3FD50FF1393 CA0D7DC0F7A3E023AC3631943F5F3BE9375E487BBA1A3E03B5 B0366FB268AA8B328ECD1C432D07A97DE97C377A9B6456477A AE9405ABF8C9586C01CD21279205C46A298920C5F4B89AEDA9 AC65171C73F5ED2B8C5EC992AC3CD2B614&sku_id=0926INGF S10059040&catid=20103

I had that amp running a set of TYpe r's and it hits nicely..:D..but thats just my two cents worth :D

ShonBesharah 06-23-2006 12:48 PM

First of all,welcome to car audio world.Finding a shop in ottawa that will take good care of you may be harder to find than good equipment. most shops over charge for there basic services, most of the enthusiast run shops have closed or been bought out. There are some awsome installers at the big retailers (B.B and F.S). For $1500 we could make your car sound great if you want to give us a call

Noleafclover 06-23-2006 01:21 PM

Personnally I Agree, JBL Rocks, you can pick up 2 P1024's or 1022's (depending on your amps ohm load req.) for 200$ a piece, get a GTO601.1 for roughly 350.00-400.00, so thats about 800.00, gonna need to get wiring and what not and a god quality box, living in Ottawa i know that Shon makes some sick boxes, he doesnt know me but his rep. preceds his box making skills in Ottawa....those are my suggestions, JBL rocks!...im throwing in one of the P1024's next weekend so i can let u know how they hit

veeman 06-23-2006 03:06 PM

Nothing wrong with big box stores, or small guys (if you get some references). As far as equip goes; I have always used well known, proven, high quality brands such as; Alpine, Pioneer, Clarion, Rockford Fosgate, JBl, Infinity, etc... I have used all these brands, and others, many times in the last 20+ years with excellent results. Now, with a 1500.00 budget, you can get all the same brand or mix and match. I like to use the same brand/model for my mid/high speakers, as I believe it keeps a similar tonal quality between the speaks. Subs you can go with other brands if you want to, but honestly all the brands listed have very good subs as well. As an example a simple set up can be; front components(5.25, 6.5) for about 250-300.00(infinity, JBL), rear fill co-axials for 100-150.00(infintiy, JBL), sub and box for 150-250.00( kicker comp vr+box, or Future shop has a Infinity 1230w and box on special), 6 channel amp for 500.00(JBL gto 755 from smartass), deck for 250-300(Alpine, Pioneer, Clarion), and wiring and install for about 300.00. These are all real world prices which I've plucked from big box stores and "Smartass"'s website at the right side of your screen. Your install should be about 200.00 as you are using all factory locations, and a prefab sub and box. Anyway, I hope that gives you an idea as there are literally thousands of combinations you can go with. For someone like you, with limited car audio experience, I would suggest that you go and see a few retailers and ask a lot of questions.

MR2NR 06-23-2006 03:58 PM

I would start with a good cd player like the Eclipse CD2000 or CD3000, no need to go higher up the line that either one of these unless you want more bells and whistles. A good set of front and rear speakers are next on the list. After that a sub system is one of the most expensive parts of a system to purchase. Is your budget including taxes and a box or + these things? This will have a major effect on the quality of the system that you purchase. Have the box built for the subwoofer you choose and the vehicle you drive. You can be like the masses and put in a prefab box and hope for the best or install the proper box and know that the sub you purchased, with the amp you purchased is giving you all that it is worth. Once I know whether your budget is inc taxes and a box, I will start to find some good products specific to your application.

ShonBesharah 06-23-2006 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by MR2NR
I would start with a good cd player like the Eclipse CD2000 or CD3000, no need to go higher up the line that either one of these unless you want more bells and whistles. A good set of front and rear speakers are next on the list. After that a sub system is one of the most expensive parts of a system to purchase. Is your budget including taxes and a box or + these things? This will have a major effect on the quality of the system that you purchase. Have the box built for the subwoofer you choose and the vehicle you drive. You can be like the masses and put in a prefab box and hope for the best or install the proper box and know that the sub you purchased, with the amp you purchased is giving you all that it is worth. Once I know whether your budget is inc taxes and a box, I will start to **** in on some good products specific to your application.

Awsome advice! I couldnt have said it better

ShonBesharah 06-23-2006 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Noleafclover
Personnally I Agree, JBL Rocks, you can pick up 2 P1024's or 1022's (depending on your amps ohm load req.) for 200$ a piece, get a GTO601.1 for roughly 350.00-400.00, so thats about 800.00, gonna need to get wiring and what not and a god quality box, living in Ottawa i know that Shon makes some sick boxes, he doesnt know me but his rep. preceds his box making skills in Ottawa....those are my suggestions, JBL rocks!...im throwing in one of the P1024's next weekend so i can let u know how they hit

Well if I dont know you, come and say hi! Then I will

Buzz 06-24-2006 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by MR2NR
I would start with a good cd player like the Eclipse CD2000 or CD3000, no need to go higher up the line that either one of these unless you want more bells and whistles. A good set of front and rear speakers are next on the list. After that a sub system is one of the most expensive parts of a system to purchase. Is your budget including taxes and a box or + these things? This will have a major effect on the quality of the system that you purchase. Have the box built for the subwoofer you choose and the vehicle you drive. You can be like the masses and put in a prefab box and hope for the best or install the proper box and know that the sub you purchased, with the amp you purchased is giving you all that it is worth. Once I know whether your budget is inc taxes and a box, I will start to find some good products specific to your application.

I agree.... excellent advice, and the Eclipse line offers extremely clean output right from their entry level to their best model.

Stepside 06-24-2006 11:10 AM

Great advice by everybody, keep it coming.

Brad-S.A. 06-24-2006 11:22 AM

Try and stay away from equipment that the masses and/or people from the site have not used or heard of much. If its cheap its most likely CHEAP :) The Infinity and JBL have always been very nice solid products. Dont forget to set aside $150-250 for install wiring and dash kits and so on and a bunch of the money will be obviously get used on taxes. Now when stuff is on sale at the Big Box stores its hard to beat but if they dont have what you want a smaller indipendent like Rob at Forbiden or myself or a local shop can sometimes put complete system package together that can also save a ton. Have fun. :)

mike bisson 06-24-2006 01:56 PM

$1500 before tax (in BC) is $1315.80

So:

Deck: $200-300
Amp: $250-350
Subs: $300 (two tens)
Front Speakers $200
Install and Wire: $150-250

Many guys worry about this model or that model or feature... remember balance -- it makes no sense to get an awesome sub and a crappy amp... or a real cool deck and cheap speakers or component speakers but no amp....

PS: never buy from a guy in a tie... he'll sell you what he has to as opposed to selling you what you need...

Noleafclover 06-25-2006 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by ShonBesharah
Well if I dont know you, come and say hi! Then I will

Hey man, yeah your right you dont know me, but one of my buddies named Pat Lafleur says he knows u, got a box built for an MTX MZS 1004 built by u and it pounds,

anyway....i was looking to get a nice box built for a JBL P1024 10", let me know what you can do for me and what the $$ is for that...im not sure if im gonna go sealed or ported, custom ported box makes alot more sense but let me know what u think

EDIT: Your pm box says its full according to this, pm me with info.

cavy 06-26-2006 04:53 PM

i have an awesome system that will work with your budget pm me

ShonBesharah 06-26-2006 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Noleafclover
Hey man, yeah your right you dont know me, but one of my buddies named Pat Lafleur says he knows u, got a box built for an MTX MZS 1004 built by u and it pounds,

anyway....i was looking to get a nice box built for a JBL P1024 10", let me know what you can do for me and what the $$ is for that...im not sure if im gonna go sealed or ported, custom ported box makes alot more sense but let me know what u think

EDIT: Your pm box says its full according to this, pm me with info.

box is empty.

PT-Chris 06-26-2006 09:06 PM

Okay here is my 0.02.

I will not suggest what brand of equipment you should get but I will make a suggestion on setup. The gear you will need is a head unit, instead of getting 2 sets of coaxial speakers spend the money you had set aside for rear speakers on getting a set of components for the front and leave the rears, a 4 channel amp(something with some half decent power like 80x4rms) single 12" sub appx. 200wrms, and a ported enclosure.

With this equipment you can amplify the components with the front 2 channels of the amp, run the stock rears off the deck(which will be more then enough rear fill) or just disconnect them all together. Take the rear channels of the amp and bridge them into the sub. I say a single woofer so it is not underpowered, and ported so it is a little more efficent.

The setup above will keep you under that $1500 mark. This setup works real well. In my Maxima I have a DB Drive SP 80.4 amp, Orion XTR 6.5 mids that I bought in 1999, tweeters that I found sitting around the shop(fusion I think) and a Blaupunkt Overdrive 12" in a prefab ported box, and it sounds great.

veeman 06-26-2006 09:23 PM

^^I'm sure it does... for those in the front. If you don't have passengers in the rear, or they don't care, then it's a great idea. If you do have them regularly, then you need decent sound back there, or they will ask you to turn the stereo off...and then you'll have to listen to them yakking!!

BigRedGuy 06-26-2006 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by veeman
^^I'm sure it does... for those in the front. If you don't have passengers in the rear, or they don't care, then it's a great idea. If you do have them regularly, then you need decent sound back there, or they will ask you to turn the stereo off...and then you'll have to listen to them yakking!!

I don't know about that.....given that the alternative is walking......:cheeky4:

veeman 06-26-2006 10:19 PM

^^tell your kids, and parents that.

BigRedGuy 06-26-2006 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by veeman
^^tell your kids, and parents that.

Well, my kids think the new setup in the family minivan is cool, the only debates are what to listen to......:smilie_da

As for my parents, they've been convinced for decades I'm obsessed with car audio....like thats a bad thing....:laugh:

They didn't complain after I put in a home theatre in their basement tho....:smokin:


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