Moley

I can buy this amp from a guy for 125. I want to run 6.5 Alpine Type R components with it. The amp is 80 rms x 2 @ 4ohms. That should be enough I think. The amp has a high damping factor of 200. Just want some opinions. Thanks.

BigRedGuy

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As long as it still works as new it will be fine.....

Hopefully you can hear it working first.

Don't know if the price is good, others will know better than me....

HTH

Moley

Well it's not hooked up and just have to keep them finger crossed on that regard. I think Audison has a good reputation so I think 150 is resonable for that amp. The thing is though I don't know if I should just run my front components on it @ 4 ohms being 80 rms per channel or run the front type r's and the rear type s coaxils at 2 ohm being 120 rms per channel and split some wattage.

Mr.DatSubishi

You'll get more power but will lack the tuneability (if that's a word) of a fader and proper level matching per speakers, for proper sound. I think the ss tend to get a little shrill at higher power levels. You will also increase thd and probably lose damping factor running at 2 ohms.

Moley

^Ya, I was kinda swaying this way. I think I will keep the S's in the back running off the ktp-445 and drive the R's in the front properly. I hope the Audison is worth it. Oh and damping factor lowers when ohms lower? Well in that case 2 ohms is not the way to go. I want precision.

Mr.DatSubishi

In most cases you will lose damping factor. Some new digital amps you don't. Same with thd. I'm lookin at an older massive amp that runs 8-900 damping factor and .012 thd. But pricey and not so efficient. Maybe one day.

Moley

Wow! 8-900 huh. That's high. I wonder if the human ear would even notice that. I have never heard massive stuff but I hear it's a good Canadian company.

Mr.DatSubishi

More damping factor = more cone control. The massive stuff is designed and distributed out of California. Most of their stuff is made in china I believe, but most everybody's stuff today is made overseas. They have an extensive line of products and they keep the quality up. The older amps like the one mentioned and the one I'm running are from the good old American made days.

I was talking with you earlier when you were having the issue with the type Ss. I did a set of components and coax type Ss in a blazer the other day and they sounded great run of a nice JVC. I wonder if you got dud tweeters or something before. Because those speakers usually handle good power work well and impress the average guy. and for a good price point.

Let us know how the audison works.

Dukk

Damping factor and THD mean nothing. They are both easily manipulated numbers that some companies try to use to embiggen thier products. Both are always well in excess of what a human could ever detect.

Moley

Hmmm...I thought Massive was Canadian? (someone told me that) Do you know of any Canadian car audio companies? I am curious. You know you are right about the made in china stuff. Some is crap where as some is good. Like Alpine for instance. Some companies are still sticking to their guns and I am a true believer that most American made equipment is better. Audioson and Hertz are Italian I believe and is good. Take MB Quart. They were German till Maxxonics bought them. (they aren't bad for budget stuff.) Now they are made in China. It all depends really I guess. Idk what was up with the S's I had. Whatever though. The R's are better imo for the tweeter and mid bass. Oh and I am far from the average guy so that's probably why I didn't like them. Also I am getting the Audison this Friday and can't wait. I will for sure let you know. I have high hopes for the amp so I hope it doesn't let me down.

I tend to agree for the most part. There are a lot of marketing gimmicks out there but higher end amps with high damping factors sound better imo. Could be just the plecebo effect or they are just simply better. Who knows. Also I would like to think that I have a good ear for car audio but there are limits.