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Canadian GP 01-04-2004 11:04 AM

I will be building my own box for the eD10A.44 that I bought from Johnny T. I built a box for my sons XXX15 using countersunk screws but from what I've read here brads do just fine.

My question for you veteran box builders is this, what size brads do you use and how close to you space them?

Thanks.

loudsubz 01-04-2004 11:58 AM

I've built a few boxes before, always using drywall screws and countersinking etc. I just picked up a 2" brad nailer, but havnt built a box with it yet. Im guessing you should place them the same spacing as screws, if not put them a little more closer together.

Bigmike216 01-04-2004 01:34 PM

about the same spacing as screws.. they're only there to hold it together til the wood glue dries. all of the strength comes from the glue.

pinhead 01-04-2004 02:44 PM

#18 1 1/2 inch

JohnnyToronto 01-04-2004 05:52 PM

OT, but Steve, btw, it's a dual 2, not 4...

Canadian GP 01-04-2004 06:06 PM


Originally posted by JohnnyToronto:
OT, but Steve, btw, it's a dual 2, not 4...
Thanks JT, I knew it was a dual 2 but had the numbers all wrong. I've been looking at so many different amps, subs, H/U I'm totally confused. [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]

CaptDeth 01-05-2004 01:38 AM


Originally posted by pinhead:
#18 1 1/2 inch
Follow this mans advice. I use a 16ga 1 1/2" brad and it seems to woek great most of the time. The problem is that 16ga can split the wood depending largely on the spacing and/or the MDF quality. Don't even think about using it on 1/2", you'll frustrate yourself.

I plan to get an 18ga nailer for box building [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

imntense 01-05-2004 04:40 AM

2" brads 2" apart load it with wood glue! When finished Seal it from the inside with silicon as usual but beware that you don't stick any missed nails in your fingers! Good luck!

Paul Niwranski 01-05-2004 01:51 PM

18ga, double wood thickness at least, about 1.5-2" apart.

bigb7000 01-05-2004 01:59 PM

Hmmm... I think your crazy to just use those and no screws... I have never had a box like that last long under heavy pressure... I would only use the nails to get it started and make it easy for the glue to dry than hit it with the drywall screws as well...

Paul Niwranski 01-05-2004 02:29 PM

I had a 27piece box in the back of my Z28 with a pair of Rockford Pro12s in it. There were 6 screws as I recall - the rest was just glue [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I built a wall for 4 15s using just brads and glue and it worked out alright. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

Bigmike216 01-05-2004 05:04 PM

the strength doesn't come from the screws, it comes form the glue.. and yellow carpenters glue will form a bond that is stronger than the wood it's self.

pinhead 01-05-2004 06:34 PM

as long as you don't put a nail any closer than 2inches form the edge
splitting should not be an issue
and yes the glue is what hold the box together

bigb7000 01-06-2004 02:52 PM

Well, I still think it will not work with just glue and brads... I have had professional cabinet makers make me boxes and they first tried the brad and glue which they also said will bond and make it stronger than the wood and after a few hards burbs it busted the seams in a few places... They have tried different cuts to make it stonger and after it was all said and done I added screws to fix it and make it strong...

If under serious SPL add screws if just average SPL it might work.

pinhead 01-06-2004 05:12 PM

i've built boxes for w7's and hcca's for people running 2500 watts plus and no blown boxes yet

Bigmike216 01-06-2004 05:18 PM

maybe they weren't using s suitable glue.. standard white glue isn't strong enough.. a yellow carpenters glue should be used. I can take 2 pieces bonded at a 90 degree angle with glue, and hit them with a hammer.. the wood always breaks before the glue lets go.


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