cd making
12-05-2004, 01:01 AM
#21
oh ya.. dipping my burnt CD into liquid nitro makes em sound better too.. LMFAO..
Sorry kiddies.. read up on the difference in how the information is stored.. then on actual ABX compairisons beween file fromats and you may see the light..
slim to no audible diff between 128kb/s and CD... [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Sorry kiddies.. read up on the difference in how the information is stored.. then on actual ABX compairisons beween file fromats and you may see the light..
slim to no audible diff between 128kb/s and CD... [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
12-05-2004, 10:15 AM
#22
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I'm sorry Haunz .. but I think your drunk.
Perhaps you just need to upgrade your listening equipment if you can't hear a difference.
Actually rethinking that if you can't hear the difference good for you, your lucky.
And I'm not a "kiddie".
Been at the game awhile and there is without any question a considerable difference in quality between the CD and the 128kbit mp3.
You'll notice a considerable difference in data size, and the mp3 is not a lossless compression format. (this means data is lost during the compression) A quick rule of thumb is that higher bit rate mp3s will retain more of the original transients in the music etc. So downloading 160kbit (I start at 192 myself as a minumum) and higher will 'generaly' result in a better quality sound. You can think about it another way aswell, if someone took the trouble to set the bitrate higher than the standard default perhaps they also took extra care to use a decent codec such as LAME, and perhaps a decent ripping program such as EAC.
**some decent information**
Hope that helps people in their pursuit of an enjoyable listening experience.
Heck, some people drive Hyundais by choice.
nuff said.
The Hammer
[ December 05, 2004, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: TheHammer ]
Perhaps you just need to upgrade your listening equipment if you can't hear a difference.
Actually rethinking that if you can't hear the difference good for you, your lucky.
And I'm not a "kiddie".
Been at the game awhile and there is without any question a considerable difference in quality between the CD and the 128kbit mp3.
You'll notice a considerable difference in data size, and the mp3 is not a lossless compression format. (this means data is lost during the compression) A quick rule of thumb is that higher bit rate mp3s will retain more of the original transients in the music etc. So downloading 160kbit (I start at 192 myself as a minumum) and higher will 'generaly' result in a better quality sound. You can think about it another way aswell, if someone took the trouble to set the bitrate higher than the standard default perhaps they also took extra care to use a decent codec such as LAME, and perhaps a decent ripping program such as EAC.
**some decent information**
Hope that helps people in their pursuit of an enjoyable listening experience.
Heck, some people drive Hyundais by choice.
nuff said.
The Hammer
[ December 05, 2004, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: TheHammer ]
12-05-2004, 01:35 PM
#23
With regards to the quality and being able to discern the difference between original cds and compressed. Remember that all compression formats are based on psychoacoustical logarithms. It is based on the average human's ability to hear certain sounds and the masking of sounds due to volume levels and similarities between that sound and other sounds which may be louder. Humans have trouble hearing lower level sounds when they are exposed to louder sounds of a similar frequency. However, this is based on the average human's hearing, therefore some people may hear quite a difference while others would notice nothing. Add to this the training of the ear to hear subtle differences in sound quality and you may have some people that can hear very big differences. Isn't this why we choose different brands and quality levels of products. Some of us are convinced that brand A sounds better than brand B no matter what the specs say. As far as I am concerned I like to use windows media audio(WMA) at 320kbs variable bit rate(VBR)to compress my cds. I can not tell the difference between cds and cds compressed using this format on Windows media player version 10. I can usually get about 80 songs burned on a cdr which I find is more than enough since too many songs are too hard to scroll through anyway.
12-06-2004, 10:59 AM
#26
once again not trying to hijack, but i am using limewire to download music, can anyone please tell me how i go about putting these songs on a cd.I just(thanks to you guys) figured out how to make mp3's and now i also learned how to download songs from the net but can't figure out how to get those songs on a cd.Any help is truly appreciated
12-06-2004, 11:00 AM
#27
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Limewire when it first came out was packed so full of spyware t money. It was almost next to impossible to generally uninstall the program. Dunno about today however when I first tried it not to long ago that was the case.
The program out there with no spyware and works great is Ares
[ December 06, 2004, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Blind ]
The program out there with no spyware and works great is Ares
[ December 06, 2004, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Blind ]
12-06-2004, 11:13 AM
#28
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as for putting mp3's on to a cd use a burning program like nero or easy cd creator. but when you have the option of what kind of cd to make select data cd and not audio cd. think of your mp3 files as any old type of file and think of your cd as a floppy disk. it's the same idea. that way when you go to burn the cd the program will treat the mp3's as the normal files (not music) and only use up 1/16 of the memory on the cd. therefore you can get tons more of files onto 1 cd. i hope that helps a little...
12-06-2004, 01:16 PM
#29
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Originally posted by Coffeyman:
as for putting mp3's on to a cd use a burning program like nero or easy cd creator. but when you have the option of what kind of cd to make select data cd and not audio cd. think of your mp3 files as any old type of file and think of your cd as a floppy disk. it's the same idea. that way when you go to burn the cd the program will treat the mp3's as the normal files (not music) and only use up 1/16 of the memory on the cd. therefore you can get tons more of files onto 1 cd. i hope that helps a little...
as for putting mp3's on to a cd use a burning program like nero or easy cd creator. but when you have the option of what kind of cd to make select data cd and not audio cd. think of your mp3 files as any old type of file and think of your cd as a floppy disk. it's the same idea. that way when you go to burn the cd the program will treat the mp3's as the normal files (not music) and only use up 1/16 of the memory on the cd. therefore you can get tons more of files onto 1 cd. i hope that helps a little...
12-06-2004, 01:17 PM
#30
Originally posted by Coffeyman:
as for putting mp3's on to a cd use a burning program like nero or easy cd creator. but when you have the option of what kind of cd to make select data cd and not audio cd. think of your mp3 files as any old type of file and think of your cd as a floppy disk. it's the same idea. that way when you go to burn the cd the program will treat the mp3's as the normal files (not music) and only use up 1/16 of the memory on the cd. therefore you can get tons more of files onto 1 cd. i hope that helps a little...
as for putting mp3's on to a cd use a burning program like nero or easy cd creator. but when you have the option of what kind of cd to make select data cd and not audio cd. think of your mp3 files as any old type of file and think of your cd as a floppy disk. it's the same idea. that way when you go to burn the cd the program will treat the mp3's as the normal files (not music) and only use up 1/16 of the memory on the cd. therefore you can get tons more of files onto 1 cd. i hope that helps a little...
