Clarion DPX11500 amp
what are your thoughts on this amp is it any good has anyone tried it or owned it may buy one if i get good feedback
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stick with the Ultimate t3-1000d it will produce more that 2 of the clarions
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haha k man obviously there not the greatest of amps then
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Where do you get 2 of the clarions out of the 1000D ? The clarion produces more watts at 2/1 ohm than the 1000D does.
It is rated for less at 4 ohm though. Nothing wrong with clarion |
to be fair u would have to try it to see how good the clarion is have had bad experiences with clarion stuff myself. but the ulimate compared to the clarion the clarion dont stand a chance they might say its got more wattage but put them against each other and the ultimate will defently out perform it by alot
-Richard |
Originally Posted by TravisB
Where do you get 2 of the clarions out of the 1000D ? The clarion produces more watts at 2/1 ohm than the 1000D does.
It is rated for less at 4 ohm though. Nothing wrong with clarion |
The website I was looking at with the 1000D said it had 1000w at 4 ohms and 1200w at 2 ohms and 1600w max at 4, 3500w max at 2.:dunno: no idea where they came up with that?
But since then I went to the actual manufactures website and this is completely wrong, my bad. I wouldnt get rid of the 1000D for the clarion either |
i wasnt planning on getting rid of it just wanted to know how good the clarion was cuz my buddy is looking for a good low priced amp not me
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Oh well in that case I have the DXP 1800 its one step down its set up to power a PXW 1552 in 1ohm, even cranked for a long time the thing never over heats and the sound is clean no distortion.
Ive never heard anything bad about clarion amps, IMO theyre the best bang for your money around where I live anyway |
Originally Posted by snipes12
i wasnt planning on getting rid of it just wanted to know how good the clarion was cuz my buddy is looking for a good low priced amp not me
So put him into a T3-500D 1000W rms at 2 ohms. :) |
But why do that when you could get 1500w RMS at 2ohms with the DXP 11500
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Because he mentioned the power of the 800. So if he was going to do the 1500 Clarion he may aswell do the T3-1000D which is 2700W rms at 13.8Volts.
Sorry never mind meant to say T3-1000D :) |
Clarion Rocks
Instead Of Comparing What Amp Has The Mist Power Lets Compare At What $$$$$ Are You Paying For That Wattage, So If The Clarion Was 300 Watts Rms And It Retails $300 Thats $1/watt, Now I Know Readin Wattage Specs Is Liek Reading National Inquirer , So Beware, The Only Way To Know What An Amp Does Is Test It Your Self With The Proper Equipment, And Then Load Test The Amp For Strenght. In My Opinion Any Amp Or Person That Say There Amp Does 2500 Watts Needs Help And Do The Math, A Car With A Diposable 30 Amps Off Alternator Running At 14.4 Volts Would Mean You Can Only Ever Have An Amp Give You Max Wattage Of432 Watts Before Your Car Shuts Off!
Craig |
LOL, Never mind not even going to start. Ah why not. Your kidding right?? So what you are saying is your system wattage is limited to the amount of disposible amps from the alt. over and beyond what the vehicle uses. And then if you exceed that your car dies? :smilie_da
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Clarion rates all of their amps with CEA-2006 compliant testing which is 14.4v at 1%thd so you can trust the ratings.
Power per dollar clarion is doing pretty good and from what I see the Ultimate is also a good choice they rate theirs at 13.8 so at 14.4 they would pump out a little more power But I think the clarion is quite a bit cheaper |
Haha I didnt read his whole post, if thats the case I guess if I turn my stereo up my car will shut off.:bs: Im not even sure what elese to say
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Yes
That Exaclty What I Am Saying!! Why Do You Think Large Systems Required Multiple Batteries, If You Install An Amp That Will Requires More Amps That The Alternator Can Give Then It Will Start Taking Away From What The Car Needs To Run, Only After The Cars Battery Is Dead Of Course Which Wont Take Long, Therefore Headlight Dimming Woudl Be A Good Sign Of Gettin Close To Voltage Drops To The Cars Computers! I Been Doign This For 15 Yrs And I Am A Electronics Engineer And With 15 Yrs Installing I Know What I Know From What I Seen, Then Only Have I Done The Math, With Electronics Seeing Is Beliving And Math Sometimes Doesnt Equate.
By The Way The Clarion Amp Is In My Opnion The Best Buy Those Amps Rock, Killer Price For Killer Output, And Thats Based On My Ears!!! Not My Math And Really What Counts --- How It Sounds Right! |
Wow........Wow thats all I have to say. Uhmm did you forget the fact that a car has a battery to deliver over 1000 CCA? Oh and by the way I didn't say the Clarion Amps are bad cause I am a Clarion dealer. I simply said they could get schooled by an Ultimate T3. And if Clarion knew one thing about marketing they would know that they should have product before releasing them as new models and not introduce them 3/4 of the way through the Canadian Season. I had a few of the 1500's on order. Customers got fed up and went to T3 for the same money, more power, and better warranty.
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lol this thread just took right off im liking the arguments haha alot of good pionts r being brought up about clarion and ultimate but either way between a clarion and a 500D im sure it will sound good he dont have a very big system so one of these should work excepsonaily well
-Richard |
nice
yes your right cold cranking amps 1000 you say,,,, for about 5 seconds then it goes back to the real amperage that the battery can do and most gm batteries are good for 80 amps/hour you do the math, i am curious do you work for a car audio shop, please do tell us where woudl be nice to know! why dont you call a shop tommorow and tell them you want one of those 1000 amps batteries that last forever, lol and how does an rated 95 amp charging alternator ever charge that 1000 amp battery, and why woudl a car ever need 1000 amps when it prolly take 65 amps to run everyting in it, do you think any manufacture woudl jsut give you somethin thats so incredible because there bored , yea right any car maufacturer wil give you the bare necesities to run the car and that's it! if you wana run anything beyound that there limits and it will cost you
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so just wondering myself UCA are u a big car audio that goes into comps and stuff all the time ??
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Smartass is a retailer and I think he knows a little something??
and why would you need 1000amps in a battery, well if you want your car to start in the winter, or any time your going to need a few amps to get that starter going. I guess you could push it down a hill:dunno: and an amp will only draw that much current if at 100% volume, and I wouldnt worry about my battery if I kept draining my battery, I would worry about my ears noone drives around at 100% volume everyday |
Well sir you got me good. You have it all figured out. Nice work :stroke: Good luck with that shop.
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lol this thread kicks ass
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car audio
i have competed before but long ago, i am a sound quality fenatic, but love car audio all around, anways, i deal with people everyday and i state the facts as they are, everyone is entitled to ther opionion, granted! i woudl never tell a customer hes wrong only that there your ears and if it soudns good to you buy it, that whats important, our convo here has gone very aside formthe original question, but there was some statements that werent even close to being correct, as per 1000cca, that a batteries abilty to start a car on a coild morning but ask any shop it will only put that out for 5 secs max, and thenthe battery woudl be dead instanly if the car really took 1000 amp draw impossible for it to but, batteries arent made just for one car ther universal appltcations, therefor hense you could seelthat battery to anybody with any purpose.
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ok well i dont know to much about cars so its not my position to say anything but people have told me really good things about steve as a vendor and he knows his stuff and w/e so im sure he knows what he's saying isnt wrong but i dunno haha anyways ya i think my buddy is gonna go with the ultimate because he likes mine and he knows they work well
-Richard |
Originally Posted by UCA438
i have competed before but long ago, i am a sound quality fenatic, but love car audio all around, anways, i deal with people everyday and i state the facts as they are, everyone is entitled to ther opionion, granted! i woudl never tell a customer hes wrong only that there your ears and if it soudns good to you buy it, that whats important, our convo here has gone very aside formthe original question, but there was some statements that werent even close to being correct, as per 1000cca, that a batteries abilty to start a car on a coild morning but ask any shop it will only put that out for 5 secs max, and thenthe battery woudl be dead instanly if the car really took 1000 amp draw impossible for it to but, batteries arent made just for one car ther universal appltcations, therefor hense you could seelthat battery to anybody with any purpose.
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yes
i am sure he is a great person and a great retailer, but a really good reatiler doesnt, put down other products, bad mouth other shops, and when they don't know an answer to a customers quetsion, try and bullshit there way to an answer just so the customer hears what he wants to hear all to make a sale, smartass did say he was stumped, but not sure if he was being sarcastic with his jerky motion icon, lol, look i think if he could answer my two simple quesions, as too 1) how can a 95amp rated alternator charge a 1000amp constant rated battery 2) let say it could how long woudl it take, then i woudl be very surprised because if he knew those answers his original statements woudl be wrong! anyways good selling smartass business is tough and last thing you need is customers doubting your professionlism, so be careful how you answer things, i always surprise my customers when i get a question i dont know an answer too and that by sayin "you know what i dont know, let me find out!"
peace |
smartass quote "And a yellow top can continuly deliver 500-600Amps for over 40secs"
yes you are correct but you leaving out the fact that if an amp pulled 600amps for 40 secs continuous that battery woudl be completely dead, adn therefore take prolly 20 mins to fully charge froma rated 95 amp alternator, so if a battery is dead in a car and is pulling 600 amps it woudl therfore take what the alternator has to give and prolly blow it up with a drain of 600 amp , but befoire that the car would die, i am not stating that you cars max amp output will limit your amps max out short term but only continuos wattage output, what woudl and has always been a good way a determining an amps max outut before it blows up is to take the rated fuse on the side of the amp and multiply that time the cars voltage , that would be max power before that amp would implode! i laugh when i see an amps rating at 1000watts and has a 20 amp fuse in it, math,,,, 20amp x 14.4 288 watts continuos distortion or not! |
Originally Posted by UCA438
i am sure he is a great person and a great retailer, but a really good reatiler doesnt, put down other products, bad mouth other shops, and when they don't know an answer to a customers quetsion, try and bullshit there way to an answer just so the customer hears what he wants to hear all to make a sale, smartass did say he was stumped, but not sure if he was being sarcastic with his jerky motion icon, lol, look i think if he could answer my two simple quesions, as too 1) how can a 95amp rated alternator charge a 1000amp constant rated battery 2) let say it could how long woudl it take, then i woudl be very surprised because if he knew those answers his original statements woudl be wrong! anyways good selling smartass business is tough and last thing you need is customers doubting your professionlism, so be careful how you answer things, i always surprise my customers when i get a question i dont know an answer too and that by sayin "you know what i dont know, let me find out!"
peace |
Originally Posted by UCA438
smartass quote "And a yellow top can continuly deliver 500-600Amps for over 40secs"
yes you are correct but you leaving out the fact that if an amp pulled 600amps for 40 secs continuous that battery woudl be completely dead, adn therefore take prolly 20 mins to fully charge froma rated 95 amp alternator, so if a battery is dead in a car and is pulling 600 amps it woudl therfore take what the alternator has to give and prolly blow it up with a drain of 600 amp , but befoire that the car would die, i am not stating that you cars max amp output will limit your amps max out short term but only continuos wattage output, what woudl and has always been a good way a determining an amps max outut before it blows up is to take the rated fuse on the side of the amp and multiply that time the cars voltage , that would be max power before that amp would implode! i laugh when i see an amps rating at 1000watts and has a 20 amp fuse in it, math,,,, 20amp x 14.4 288 watts continuos distortion or not! Yes ratings are messed but if I have 1000W rms amp and it has a 100Amp fuse and I have 40amps left over in my alt. I can still get my 1000W rms out of the amp without killing my system or battery. Hey listen im the first to say add batterys but come on here. There is thousands of people with 1000W rms amps with stock electrical systems and you dont see them broke down at the side of the highway do you? BTW RMS ratings is draw X Voltage X efficiency. |
happy selling,
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well it has been interesting so far haha
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Originally Posted by UCA438
That Exaclty What I Am Saying!! Why Do You Think Large Systems Required Multiple Batteries, If You Install An Amp That Will Requires More Amps That The Alternator Can Give Then It Will Start Taking Away From What The Car Needs To Run, Only After The Cars Battery Is Dead Of Course Which Wont Take Long, Therefore Headlight Dimming Woudl Be A Good Sign Of Gettin Close To Voltage Drops To The Cars Computers! I Been Doign This For 15 Yrs And I Am A Electronics Engineer And With 15 Yrs Installing I Know What I Know From What I Seen, Then Only Have I Done The Math, With Electronics Seeing Is Beliving And Math Sometimes Doesnt Equate.
By The Way The Clarion Amp Is In My Opnion The Best Buy Those Amps Rock, Killer Price For Killer Output, And Thats Based On My Ears!!! Not My Math And Really What Counts --- How It Sounds Right! This thread is being closed because of the amount of BS you're trying to spew. I think we all know at least a few people who run much more than 1000w daily and have no electrical problems. |
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