snipes12

so just wondering myself UCA are u a big car audio that goes into comps and stuff all the time ??

TravisB

Smartass is a retailer and I think he knows a little something??
and why would you need 1000amps in a battery, well if you want your car to start in the winter, or any time your going to need a few amps to get that starter going. I guess you could push it down a hill

and an amp will only draw that much current if at 100% volume, and I wouldnt worry about my battery if I kept draining my battery, I would worry about my ears noone drives around at 100% volume everyday

Brad-S.A.

iTrader: (35)

Well sir you got me good. You have it all figured out. Nice work Good luck with that shop.

snipes12

lol this thread kicks ***

UCA438

i have competed before but long ago, i am a sound quality fenatic, but love car audio all around, anways, i deal with people everyday and i state the facts as they are, everyone is entitled to ther opionion, granted! i woudl never tell a customer hes wrong only that there your ears and if it soudns good to you buy it, that whats important, our convo here has gone very aside formthe original question, but there was some statements that werent even close to being correct, as per 1000cca, that a batteries abilty to start a car on a coild morning but ask any shop it will only put that out for 5 secs max, and thenthe battery woudl be dead instanly if the car really took 1000 amp draw impossible for it to but, batteries arent made just for one car ther universal appltcations, therefor hense you could seelthat battery to anybody with any purpose.

snipes12

ok well i dont know to much about cars so its not my position to say anything but people have told me really good things about steve as a vendor and he knows his stuff and w/e so im sure he knows what he's saying isnt wrong but i dunno haha anyways ya i think my buddy is gonna go with the ultimate because he likes mine and he knows they work well

-Richard

Brad-S.A.

iTrader: (35)

With the 1000CCA would it not make sense that when a bass note hits for half a sec that the battery could provide 1000Amps if nessisary? And a yellow top can continuly deliver 500-600Amps for over 40secs. The amp is never subjected to full power on a continuous basis. So it never really comes into play. To say that your system wattage is limited to the amount of spare alt amps left over after running the car is just..........wrong. Sorry

UCA438

i am sure he is a great person and a great retailer, but a really good reatiler doesnt, put down other products, bad mouth other shops, and when they don't know an answer to a customers quetsion, try and bullshit there way to an answer just so the customer hears what he wants to hear all to make a sale, smartass did say he was stumped, but not sure if he was being sarcastic with his jerky motion icon, lol, look i think if he could answer my two simple quesions, as too 1) how can a 95amp rated alternator charge a 1000amp constant rated battery 2) let say it could how long woudl it take, then i woudl be very surprised because if he knew those answers his original statements woudl be wrong! anyways good selling smartass business is tough and last thing you need is customers doubting your professionlism, so be careful how you answer things, i always surprise my customers when i get a question i dont know an answer too and that by sayin "you know what i dont know, let me find out!"

peace

UCA438

smartass quote "And a yellow top can continuly deliver 500-600Amps for over 40secs"

yes you are correct but you leaving out the fact that if an amp pulled 600amps for 40 secs continuous that battery woudl be completely dead, adn therefore take prolly 20 mins to fully charge froma rated 95 amp alternator, so if a battery is dead in a car and is pulling 600 amps it woudl therfore take what the alternator has to give and prolly blow it up with a drain of 600 amp , but befoire that the car would die, i am not stating that you cars max amp output will limit your amps max out short term but only continuos wattage output, what woudl and has always been a good way a determining an amps max outut before it blows up is to take the rated fuse on the side of the amp and multiply that time the cars voltage , that would be max power before that amp would implode! i laugh when i see an amps rating at 1000watts and has a 20 amp fuse in it, math,,,, 20amp x 14.4 288 watts continuos distortion or not!

Brad-S.A.

iTrader: (35)

First of all to set the record straight. I didn't try and sell anything. Snipes asked a question. And I knew I sold him an amp already so I thought he was doubting the capablities vs. a Clarion DPX11500 and then later learned it was for a friend. Second I never said the battery was 1000Amps continuous. Third I would be the first person to say if I didn't know the anwser I would find out. But you don't know me so you would not know that. Fourth the battery is all ready charged the alt is just there to maintain the charge not refill from empty. BTW your statment is correct to a certain point. In other electronics such as HU, alarms, monitors, ecm all have a continuous draw of X amount of amperage and if those continuous draw exceeds the alt output then yes of course the battery will die eventually. However amps have a up and down power consumption resulting in a 20amp draw at some points and a 150 amp consumption at others. But if we look at an average of the consumptions its very easy for the alt to keep up if the system is not to demanding. I simply said your wrong to say the system wattage is limited because of left over available amps from the alt. You say this is all a business BS sales tactics? Sorry but I dont work that way. If people ask me questions I try and anwser them and if I cant I find out. If they want to buy from me fine if not thats fine to.