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Old 11-20-2008, 05:50 PM
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Exclamation crunch vs kenwood

yes i know, these are probably crappy amps by all your standards on here, but i'm poor and still kinda new to this. basically i was looking for some opinions on two amplifiers, the Crunch GP2500D and the Kenwood Excelon KAC-X1R
here are the specs for each that i found

Crunch
RMS Power Range : 625-1250 Watts
Number Of Channels: 1
Maximum Power: 2500 Watts
Built In Crossovers: Yes
Channel Separation: Yes
625W x 1-Ch @ 4-Ohms
1250W x 1-Ch @ 2-Ohms
2500W x 1-Ch @ 1-Ohm Dynamic Music Watts
Dual-Core MOSFET Power Supply Design
High-Grade MOSFET Audio Outputs
Remote Bass Control Included
Amp Protection with Diagnostics LED's
Dual Sound Shaping Controls
12 dB Bass Boost
Mono/Stereo Switch
HP/LP/Full-Pass Crossover Selections
Input Level Control (0.2-5V)
RCA Inputs & Line Outputs
Removable Amplifier End Caps
Oversized Speaker Terminals

Kenwood
RMS Power Range : 600-1200 Watts
Number Of Channels: 1
Maximum Power: 2400 Watts
Built In Crossovers: Yes
Channel Separation: Yes
Dual sigma drive
RMS Power at 4 Ohm: 1 x 600 Watts
RMS Power at 2 Ohm: 1 x 1200 Watts
Maximum Output Power: 2400 Watts
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 80dBA
Low-Pass Filter: 40-200Hz (Variable), -24dB/oct
Infrasonic Filter: 15Hz-60Hz (Variable), -24dB/oct
Variable Band Reject Filter: 40Hz-200Hz, OFF/-6dB/-12dB
Bass Boost Ready (Wired Remote): 40Hz-100Hz, 0dB–+18dB


i'm looking for about 1200 watts rms and from the research i've done the dynamic music watts on the crunch means max watts, and they don't say rms but it does have an rms range so i'm confused as to which has more rms watts. i've got a kenwood now so i know they're not bad. basically i'm just looking for some insight as to which is the better amp for me to go with.
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What kind of budget do you have on the amp and what impedence does the amp need to operate at? No idea, then are the subs a dvc 4 ohm, svc 4 ohm?
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Kenwood over crunch....WAYY over
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Old 11-20-2008, 08:00 PM
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I have a GP2500. havent had a problem even burping it @ .5 ohms, great daily driver amp and never got hot. Kenwood amps i see getting serviced all the time or replaced completely as they fry everything.
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Old 11-21-2008, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MR2NR View Post
What kind of budget do you have on the amp and what impedence does the amp need to operate at? No idea, then are the subs a dvc 4 ohm, svc 4 ohm?
the subs will probably be the inciminator audio lethal injection 12'' 4ohm dvc and probably wire them to run a two ohm load on the amp since i'll need about 1200 watts rms and both subs give 1200 at 2 ohms

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I have a GP2500. havent had a problem even burping it @ .5 ohms, great daily driver amp and never got hot. Kenwood amps i see getting serviced all the time or replaced completely as they fry everything.
so i'm guessing it does 1250 rms at 2 ohms, not 1250 max? i have a kenwood now and it seems to do the job but i hear these maxxsonics amps are built with some power, i just don't want it to over heat like my amp used to before i put a fan in it. and just by looking at the amp it might be hard to put a fan in the crunch. i doubt i will be doing burps, its for my daily drive so i just don't want to cook it, nor do i want to not have enough watts

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Kenwood over crunch....WAYY over
thats the thing, i know what to expect from a kenwood, plus it has a cooling fan which is good because i don't know if the crunch has one
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as for the budget i found the kenwood for 300 online and the crunch for 219, so i would guess somewhere in that range. i know i save like 80 bucks with the crunch but i don't want it to be crappy you know?

ps if there is anyone who has one of these amps working or a similar one and could give me the same or a better price you're more than welcome to pm me
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There is no fan in the gp2500d, doenst need one, it is one of the coolset operating amps i have had. As for price, with the canadian dollar being so low right now. you are looking at 20 bucks more on each 100 dollars. then the gst on it when you briing it in to the country aswell as the other customs and brokerage.
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I do not believe Crunch is a pile of junk myself. If you do 10 minutes of research online, there are too many people happy with them. Check out the reviews from people who have purchased them (Woofers etc, Sonic, all those type stores).

Are they DD, or Audison, or even MTX? No. But they arent the same price either are they?

Why dont you make an offer on the ones in the for sale section? The whole setup is there for you.

Odds are if you get sucked into this hobby (raises hand) you're going to upgrade anyway, pretty much everyone seems to from what I've seen, LoL.

Just offer the guy something, get er in, and start listening. One of the mods here once posted a comment thats stuck with me "you are wasting valuable listening time" I think it was.

Anyway, my advice was free, so take it for what its worth

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i think i would rather run a Maxxsonics(crunch, hifonics, autotek) over a kenwood(atleast amp wise)
ive been running hifonics for probably atleast 6 years, ive run the hifonics BX1000D and BXi1606D and neither overheat or anything like that

fresh1 are u planning on running 2 of those 4ohm DVC subs? if so u want a 1ohm stable amp which the kenwood is NOT, crunch can do 1ohm which is supposed to be 1250rms but probably closer to 1000rms

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Originally Posted by _HeC_ View Post
i think i would rather run a Maxxsonics(crunch, hifonics, autotek) over a kenwood(atleast amp wise)
ive been running hifonics for probably atleast 6 years

fresh1 are u planning on running 2 of those 4ohm DVC subs? if so u want a 1ohm stable amp which the kenwood is NOT, crunch can do 1ohm which is supposed to be 1250rms but probably closer to 1000rms

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people dont realize that crunch is a product of maxxsonics who make hifonics amps as well as autotek amps.
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