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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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The new driver is nice, but its no where near what the old one was simply due to TC sounds involvement in the old driver. Eclipse still makes fantastic stuff, but the sw8200 was seriously in a league of its own. Looks like you can get one http://www.shopaudiovideo.com/eclsw8200.html (sorry cant post links yet) Call their number, they have a couple...

If you can do a 3 foot box, you will be in subsonic bliss. Most music tracks will never begin to test the extension of the setup, but response will be ruler flat, distortion free and with the anechoic gain- LOUD.
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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One more quick question.... some reviews say it should be powered by 1kW amp- is my jl 500/1, that puts out 600W or so, good enough?
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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That amp will do really well, could you use more power? Sure.... but you'll be just fine with that amp. The driver will only get really hungry at sub 20hz and at EXTREME spl levels. The JL amps are really solid amps. 400 watts is kind of the thresh hold for needing to look for more power..
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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SW8200 is not in stock and now that is has been discontinued will no longer be able to be brought in. The new SW8210 is in stock and available. PM for price.
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Thanks MR2NR but I will try to hunt down the old model....
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SW8200 is not in stock and now that is has been discontinued will no longer be able to be brought in. The new SW8210 is in stock and available. PM for price.
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Going to be a hard thing to find, rep might still have a dealer stuck with one somewhere else in the province though.
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Going to be a hard thing to find, rep might still have a dealer stuck with one somewhere else in the province though.
Ok, well let me know if something comes up... I am waiting for some people to respond myself ... but If I wont be able to hunt one down- do You guys think a 10" version of it (SW8000) will do fine with 60Hz and below?
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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I can't recommend the newer driver, unfortunately. I'm sure its a great driver but not having measured it or seen the results of measurement, I cannot suggest it. If you can't find the 8200, the jl is a great option as well as the audiopulse and kappa perfect vq (best bang for buck driver, period).
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Ok, well let me know if something comes up... I am waiting for some people to respond myself ... but If I wont be able to hunt one down- do You guys think a 10" version of it (SW8000) will do fine with 60Hz and below?
The 10" version would be very well suited for your application. in a 3ft box it will easily reach 20hz and SPL will be similar to the 12. Extension and powerhandling would be the biggest variances from the 10-12.
Old Jul 6, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by adwilk
I can't recommend the newer driver, unfortunately. I'm sure its a great driver but not having measured it or seen the results of measurement, I cannot suggest it. If you can't find the 8200, the jl is a great option as well as the audiopulse and kappa perfect vq (best bang for buck driver, period).
The JL I can get for $250 ,The audiopulse is twice that+shipping (i dunno if I'm looking at the scammer site or they really cost that much), the Kappa Perfects seem to Have very small Xmax, and rated at 23Hz up.... I donno if that's true or not (also reviews say that it cannot handle much above 500RMS- which might be an issue with 500/1 of mine).... The 10inch from Eclipse seems to have the same Xmax of 1,5" And power rating is only decreased by 50RMS (625RMS) ..... for the 10" - 3cuft- do I still use a LOT of filler?



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