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NTOXKTD 02-24-2009 09:06 PM

I have a bad "old school" habit
 
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I added a few more amps to the Rockford Fosgate collection.
Check out the 6 Punch 150's.
Check out the mint Power 300.
Check out the rare Power 100 and the early 80's Fosgate amp.

Sikk Nation 02-24-2009 09:23 PM

I'll check at my friends shop for you.. I think he stil 4 18" Fosgate subs from when Dinosaurs had systems

Thrill_House 02-24-2009 10:10 PM

That just about made me cream my pants, where did you find all those?

NTOXKTD 02-24-2009 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by Thrill_House (Post 462477)
That just about made me cream my pants, where did you find all those?

I started collecting them a few years ago. I have searched all over the net for them. They all work and are in very good to mint condition.

veeman 02-24-2009 10:34 PM

wow...that's nice...how much for a couple of punch 150's?

Thrill_House 02-25-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by NTOXKTD (Post 462481)
I started collecting them a few years ago. I have searched all over the net for them. They all work and are in very good to mint condition.

Very cool man, I have been building a small collection of older MTX thunder amps as well, I currently have a 225HO, a few 275x's and a 280. Any plans to use you vintage amps in any future installs?

sirsleepsalot 02-25-2009 12:30 PM

For you oldschool lovers, I've got a PPI Art amp for sale in the classifieds in anyone is interested ! :P

Dunno if it's old enough, but it must be about 15 years old.

NTOXKTD 02-25-2009 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by Thrill_House (Post 462602)
Very cool man, I have been building a small collection of older MTX thunder amps as well, I currently have a 225HO, a few 275x's and a 280. Any plans to use you vintage amps in any future installs?

I will be building an old school system very soon.

Eli47 02-26-2009 12:51 AM

I got old school Soundstream BLT2/4 way and Balanced X/O if anyone has interest.

DaVibe 02-26-2009 10:32 AM

Wow ... amazing.
That's a lot of sitting cash flow, literally.

SUX 2BU 02-26-2009 11:42 AM

Awesome man! I like the SP-series sub sitting there too. SP-415? I was actually thinking of trying to track down a pair of those for an IB install in my 02 Cavy. Would be hard to find in nice condition and without foam rot though. First pair of subs I ever owned were two SP-412 my mom bought me for Christmas back in 1992. I think they were like $249 ea. back then!

Really nice collection. I have a Power300 that's identical to that one, which is an early model due to the long tails on the R and F.

Sikk, I'm curious about those 4 18's. If you can grab a few pics, do so. Or even model numbers. Would be interseting to know if they are Pro's or not.

NTOXKTD 02-27-2009 08:22 AM

Thanks guys. There are some really valuable pieces in my collection. I am not interested in selling any of the items but I would be interested in knowing what some of the pieces are worth.

theboy 02-27-2009 09:21 AM

Nice stuff.....im selling off all my retro stuff...no need for it anymore.

alphadawg 02-27-2009 09:30 AM

it's more nostalgia than anything else...there's only so much you can use. Honestly, when I look inside the old amps, most of them are quite a mess. I'd be curious to see how they test with todays equipment compared side to side with a new amp with the same power and quality. Hard to see how all those rat's nest of wires could be quieter and more reliable than the surface mount circuits today.

Sikk Nation 02-27-2009 10:20 AM

Yeah old amps sometimes look like trainwrecks. With wire jumprs all over the damn place. One amp I recall had the RCA's going to a twsited pair inside the amp casing, running right over top the transformer to connect back to board on the other side of the case.

sundownz 02-27-2009 10:28 AM

Nice collection!

alphadawg 02-27-2009 10:39 AM

honestly, I think nostalgia drives the legend status of most old equipment. I remember high end amps in the 80's and early 90's that had serious reliability issues, over heating, doa, lots of noises (turn on/off thumps, hiss, whines etc...) and are still being hailed as great amps that nothing today can match...bull !! The only reason so many of todays amps get a bad name is because there are 100 times as many people buying them...many of whom are not car audio freaks like back in the day. Most of these "normal" people don't have a clue about 12v installations, probably fry something or max the gains, drive the speakers to distortion and then claim that the product is . I'd be very curious to see some stats for failure rates, as 100000 units will have many more units that are bad, than 1000 units manufactured. Add to that the word of mouth and internet factor, which has now made everyone an expert, who can diss a product and have thousands see it in seconds. We all know that most people love to hate on something much more than praise it, so that effect has much to do with all the bad we hear about new gear.
Let's get some honest real testing of old and new and then see just how much better the old stuff really was. Hey I loved the old days too, nothing will bring those back, but I've had very good new equipment that sounds great and is performing very well for a fraction of the cost of similarly spec'd amps, speakers, and decks in the past...with virtually no noise, no heat problems, and much smaller for the same given power.

maltesechicken 02-27-2009 10:52 AM

^^^ x2 :)

NTOXKTD 02-27-2009 11:18 AM

Anyone know the difference bethween the Punch 150's and punch 150 hd's. I opened them up and they look very similar.

alphadawg 02-27-2009 11:23 AM

probably fets had a slightly higher tolerance, or some other very small difference. Those were good amps, had 2 punch 75s, and a 150 in my 87 5.0...I've always liked and had great luck with RF, and still use them mostly in my installs. Solid eqipment, but I do remember them getting pretty hot...my new ones don't even get warm.

NTOXKTD 02-27-2009 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by alphadawg (Post 463370)
probably fets had a slightly higher tolerance, or some other very small difference. Those were good amps, had 2 punch 75s, and a 150 in my 87 5.0...I've always liked and had great luck with RF, and still use them mostly in my installs. Solid eqipment, but I do remember them getting pretty hot...my new ones don't even get warm.

I ran some punch 150's in 1991 and I blew a few up because of heat.

alphadawg 02-27-2009 11:52 AM

If i was doing a new install with older equipment...fans or some other cooling system would be a must. Still love the look of the old gear though, no bling, just black heat sinks, and a small logo!

SUX 2BU 03-02-2009 12:00 PM

NTOXKTD, what's the price and model number of that Kicker sub you are selling? The post says MTX sub for $75 but was that supposed to say Kicker sub?

NTOXKTD 03-02-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by SUX 2BU (Post 464219)
NTOXKTD, what's the price and model number of that Kicker sub you are selling? The post says MTX sub for $75 but was that supposed to say Kicker sub?

Ya its suppose to say kicker.

SUX 2BU 03-03-2009 11:55 AM

Thanks, so Kicker what: C15 or F15? Is the foam surround still in good condition?

NTOXKTD 03-03-2009 02:02 PM

it is ecellent. MINT. I will check. I believe it is an F15


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