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Old 10-03-2003, 06:04 PM
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so db don built his beyond audio subs??? where did he get his parts?
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Old 10-03-2003, 06:32 PM
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I have no reason to believe, at this time, that Beyond Audio used ANY of my defective motors.
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Old 10-03-2003, 06:33 PM
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All of Don's parts came from Desitjl also.

Inhuman = HC = LSX.... (roughly... please don't start a huge flame on me here).

The fact that Don stopped making his woofers almost sent me into shock since mine just arrived a few short weeks ago, however, most of the beyond subs can be reconed with the same coils and cones and spiders that RE uses.

I am pretty confident that Destijl makes a decent product.

RE however does have some sort of explaining to do on this one. I would be pretty concerned if I owned an RE HC right now.

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Old 10-03-2003, 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by OnyxMobileAudio:
I'm sorry if my answer doesn't satisfy your needs, but it's the only one I am willing to give. I will not intentionally harm any company; even one that has blatantly disregarded my policies. There were several issues with these parts, and rather than take our chances we decided to re-tool new parts. I am very determined to maintain our less than 1% defect ratio, and if that means it takes 6 months longer to go to market (or even longer), we would rather do that than ship product that isn't 100%. Thank you.
Your explanation was fine, it was clear and explained Onyx’s position. It's the one provided by RE that is unclear..….I would have imagined that they would have done a better job of informing people and cleared this situation up. Also it's up to RE to explain why they are using parts that is deemed defective by a another manufacture in their product.
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Old 10-03-2003, 06:41 PM
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Does your Beyond Audio driver (or any others that you are aware of) have this same black cap on the backplate?
For the record, I have absolutely no problems with dB Don, he was simply buying parts. Please reply. Thank you.
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:13 PM
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Well I am sure that your warranty with RE will still be valid if one of these "defective" subs fail.
Besides, I am sure that RE tested the subs that used the supposed "defective" parts before they started shipping anyways.
I am sure that we will never know the behind closed doors talk on what exactly was "defective", but if we did, I am sure 99% of us would not think it is a big deal.
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by Orion_95:


new parts only here folks...
What sub is that?
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by JeepBeats:
What sub is that?
I know what it is!!! Starts with an M and is european (NOT MB Quart) [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

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Old 10-03-2003, 08:27 PM
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But unless the "defect" is purely cosmetic's of the magnet (Onyx shows a polished magnet), why is something good enough for RE, but not Onyx?

Is Onyx's Quality Control better then RE's? Is Onyx more concerned about customer satisfaction then RE? Is Onyx more concerned about quality then RE?

Interesting questions..
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Green Hornet:
Well I am sure that your warranty with RE will still be valid if one of these "defective" subs fail.
Besides, I am sure that RE tested the subs that used the supposed "defective" parts before they started shipping anyways.
I am sure that we will never know the behind closed doors talk on what exactly was "defective", but if we did, I am sure 99% of us would not think it is a big deal.
What makes you so "sure" of everything?
Also, even if RE tested the "defective" parts and deemed them okay to sell, that would make them refurbished, and therefore should be marketed as such and sold at a considerable discount.
Bottom line is they are ripping their customers off!
If RE has been up front and honest with their customers (as they stated in previous posts) then why is everyone so surprised? They should have at the very least sent a letter with each sub sold telling the customers what they were getting for their hard earned money.
One last thing...when you go to an outlet store and buy name brand items at a DISCOUNTED price they list why they are discounted AND what the "DEFECT" is. RE clearly is not doing the same.

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