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wiltshire559 11-18-2006 04:31 PM

jackHammer
 
http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/subwoofers/jackHammer.cfm

it weighs 369 pounds, can that be mounted in a MDF box, I'm just worried the MDF would crack, one way to solve that is have a support peice holding up the rear of the sub inside the box

who has first hand experience with one of these subs? it must be very hard to work with as its very heavy and also how much is it worth?

iDs748 11-18-2006 04:34 PM

man that sub is not practical. I would never buy it only if i had lots of money that i could wipe my ass with 100 dollar bills.

THen I would consider it to try for fun lol.

df.dima 11-18-2006 04:51 PM

There have been a few topics where people expressed opinions close to above one as well as some positive ones. :)
I'm sure most cars would not thank you for the 300lb sub lol.

wiltshire559 11-18-2006 04:56 PM

mtx site mentions Escalade owners, Navigator drivers, and Hummer crews so they can take the weight better then any car would.

Then there is the problem of coming up with 6,000 w rms, that needs some big amps and the vehical needs to be able to keep with that load, also not easy

would $10,000 be enough to cover all the costs needed for one of those? sub, amp, box, power upgrades to vehical etc

MR2NR 11-18-2006 05:02 PM

I am probably the only dealer on the board that has actually had hands on with this sub. It was here on demo for a couple of weeks late this summer. It does indeed weigh that much and it must be rear supported. It is best to make a steel or aluminum mount that bolts to the backside of the driver for this application. The front baffle board should also be made of at least 2" materials to ensure that is does not flex and can carry the weight.

$ wise, $10K is a start at powering this beast properly. I would look at adding a substantial amount to that to ensure that it operates properly.

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by wiltshire559
mtx site mentions Escalade owners, Navigator drivers, and Hummer crews so they can take the weight better then any car would.

Then there is the problem of coming up with 6,000 w rms, that needs some big amps and the vehical needs to be able to keep with that load, also not easy

would $10,000 be enough to cover all the costs needed for one of those? sub, amp, box, power upgrades to vehical etc

doubt it... but I can tell you that 10k worth of gear would out do the jackhammer.

Mark

Brad-S.A. 11-18-2006 05:16 PM

Bingo! ^^^ You hit the nail right on the head. Its more of a statement piece.

wiltshire559 11-18-2006 05:38 PM

bragging rights for MTX that they have the biggest sub?

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by wiltshire559
bragging rights for MTX that they have the biggest sub?

Braggin rights for you, because you have the biggest dic.. oh I mean sub... ;)

Mark

Brad-S.A. 11-18-2006 05:51 PM

Ha Ha true enough. I can picture the conversation already. I have a 15" sub. pff big deal I have an 18", HA screw you both I have a 375LBS 22" Jackhammer. Ok you win. Like you said its a D&^k measuring contest.

wiltshire559 11-18-2006 05:55 PM

same with people buying escalades, hummers, navigators etc, those people might like to have the biggest, baddest sub around, doesn't matter if it gets outperformed by a wall of subs at a fraction the cost

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by wiltshire559
same with people buying escalades, hummers, navigators etc, those people might like to have the biggest, baddest sub around, doesn't matter if it gets outperformed by a wall of subs at a fraction the cost

Is this something you're planning, or planned to attempt?
or were you just wondering.

Mark

wiltshire559 11-18-2006 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by SQ Civic
Is this something you're planning, or planned to attempt?
or were you just wondering.

Mark

I'm very happy with my little 10" sub, just wanted to know more about something on the other end of the scale

Hardwrkr 11-18-2006 07:22 PM

The Jackhammer has done it's goal once again: it has gotten more people looking at MTX, the MTX website, and what other products MTX has to offer for the average customer.

Kudo's to a great company. :thumbsup:

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Hardwrkr
The Jackhammer has done it's goal once again: it has gotten more people looking at MTX, the MTX website, and what other products MTX has to offer for the average customer.

Kudo's to a great company. :thumbsup:

I can agree with that... I'm sure MTX didn't think anyone was seriously going to use this thing, it's no differnet that automotive prototypes... they rarely go into production, they just make them for the engineers, and the designers to go nuts on, then they run them through the autosalons, and generally chop them up...

Mark

twistedsickness 11-18-2006 07:28 PM

that sub is more pointless then my million speakers im putting in my car

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by twistedsickness
that sub is more pointless then my million speakers im putting in my car

with all the revenue related to that sub, and PMR tell MTX it was pointless:dunno:

it's useless to me as well, but as a marketing ploy, it was quite successfull

Mark

sens9000 11-18-2006 09:21 PM

I'm not sure if video linking is allowed here but they used the MTX JackHammer on 'pimp my ride'

Check it out its pretty crazy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXsezQJ5isA

AAAAAAA 11-18-2006 09:25 PM

Its called the halo affect.

Its very common in the automotive feild. Ford's most recent attempt would be the Ford GT, toyota did it with the prius.

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 09:25 PM

that installation was a disgrace to the hobby, and industry...

they tried to run like 8000 watts, and I'd be willing to bet that the stock electrical system they (i guess figured was good enough) had in that car was probably good for about 1200-1300w max... what a joke...

Mark

sens9000 11-18-2006 09:31 PM

lol i never said it was a good install ... just showing that sub in action

df.dima 11-18-2006 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by SQ Civic
that installation was a disgrace to the hobby, and industry...

they tried to run like 8000 watts, and I'd be willing to bet that the stock electrical system they (i guess figured was good enough) had in that car was probably good for about 1200-1300w max... what a joke...

Mark

nevermind that, them boyz would neva figa dat out cuz they got dis mad bumpij in da back yo! :)

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by df.dima
nevermind that, them boyz would neva figa dat out cuz they got dis mad bumpij in da back yo! :)

heh heh

the glass falling off the desk was the icing on the cake... I feel sorry for anyone that thought that car was cool...:stroke:

I apologize to anyone reading this that thought it was cool, and bid on the car when it hit eBay, but it's better you know now.

Mark

sens9000 11-18-2006 09:38 PM

i guess thats what happens when you blast those crazy beats by xzibit :dunno:

wiltshire559 11-18-2006 09:50 PM

did I hear the guy say it was up to 130 dB? must go way louder then that, my car can do 130 dB with only a small 10" sub and 500w, something not right
but I do know the wax in my ears don't fall out although my nose hairs get itchy

AAAAAAA 11-18-2006 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by SQ Civic
that installation was a disgrace to the hobby, and industry...

they tried to run like 8000 watts, and I'd be willing to bet that the stock electrical system they (i guess figured was good enough) had in that car was probably good for about 1200-1300w max... what a joke...

Mark

Actually ....

StreetWires 1/0 gauge wire, fuse blocks, distribution blocks, fuses, RCAs, and 6 capacitors were also used in the install to transfer and maintain every amp, watt, and volt of the car's upgraded electrical system. An Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator was installed replacing the stock 90 amp unit and 4 batteries help to ensure the JackHammer woofer is getting enough juice.

Source:http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/news/newsTemplate.cfm?ID=1573

1LoudScort00 11-18-2006 09:51 PM

does it actually put out though? I heard these things don't get that loud..

SQ Civic 11-18-2006 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
Actually ....

StreetWires 1/0 gauge wire, fuse blocks, distribution blocks, fuses, RCAs, and 6 capacitors were also used in the install to transfer and maintain every amp, watt, and volt of the car's upgraded electrical system. An Ohio Generator 200 amp alternator was installed replacing the stock 90 amp unit and 4 batteries help to ensure the JackHammer woofer is getting enough juice.

Source:http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/news/newsTemplate.cfm?ID=1573

I knew about the caps and betteries, didn't know they upgraded the alt... still though, I still doubt it was getting enough power to sustain it for more than half a minute...

for 3000w you're drawing about 190amps, 8kw is a big leap from there...

so Actually, like I said, not even close to being able to deliver the 8kw they said they were, regardless of how many caps they had, the alt just wouldn't be able to recharge the batteries...

Mark

Edit, it's actually closer to 215amps for 3000w....

AAAAAAA 11-19-2006 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by SQ Civic
and I'd be willing to bet that the stock electrical system they (i guess figured was good enough) had in that car was probably good for about 1200-1300w max... what a joke...

Yes Mark, all of what you wrote above, it turns out, was correct. Apparently.

;)

SQ Civic 11-19-2006 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
Yes Mark, all of what you wrote above, it turns out, was correct. Apparently.

;)

huh?

Mark

Lspade69 11-19-2006 10:41 AM

I think i'd agree that they do not have enough power for that subwoofer. In my opinion it is an awesome install because it looks so massive but I would never want that in my vehicle unless I had a few alternators, lots of batteries, and some massive wires. I guess when I think about how much room that thing would occupy for its output I wouldn't even want it in my vehicle. I changed my mind, it is kind of stupid.


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