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twan 07-19-2008 07:45 AM

kicker subwoofer suggestions
 
i recently bought a 12" cvr kicker subwoofer dual coil off of ebay and i want to know what you guys suggest of which amplifier i should use. the sub is a 400w and i was planning on putting it in my honda accord with the stock speakers and a after market head unit which i haven't decided on yet either.

your help much appreciated

Njord 07-19-2008 11:28 AM

Look around on ebay for a 400w RMS @ 2ohms amp. I bought the same sub but the 10'' version. I paired it up with a Clarion apx1301. Works great!

Though, I'm going to suggest a class D amplifier. Mine makes a lot of heat.

twan 07-19-2008 11:44 AM

so the sub wont blow if i buy a amp that is 400w and the sub is also 400w?

and what does it mean if a amp is mono or multi channel?

Njord 07-19-2008 12:33 PM

No, Matching RMS rating is the best thing to do. However getting a larger amp (500w RMS) gives you some head room.
From what I've read on here. One forum member was pumping 1000w RMS through his CVR.

Mono = one channel.
stereo = 2 channels.

If you read the spec of the amp it will clear it up. Some amps are marketed at 500w two channels. So you might think, is that 500w PER channel? or together?

twan 07-19-2008 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Njord (Post 371758)
No, Matching RMS rating is the best thing to do. However getting a larger amp (500w RMS) gives you some head room.
From what I've read on here. One forum member was pumping 1000w RMS through his CVR.

Mono = one channel.
stereo = 2 channels.

If you read the spec of the amp it will clear it up. Some amps are marketed at 500w two channels. So you might think, is that 500w PER channel? or together?

okay thanks. so is my sub mono or stereo? because i know it can be bridged in series or parallel circuit

Njord 07-19-2008 12:51 PM

I think you're getting mixed up here.
First, What impedance (2ohm or 4ohm) sub are you getting? I assumed, and I shouldn't have.

Dont think of your sub being Mono or stereo.
An amp with 1 channel can drive as many subs as you want, as long as the impedance is correct for the amp. Same goes with 2 channel amps.
Bridging an amp is when you have a 2 channel amp, say 250wRMS per chan, and you bridge them to make a 500w RMS 1 channel.

When you say "i know it [your sub] can be bridged in series or parallel circuit" your talking a bout the voice coil. Which isn't bridging. Series or parallel will give you different impedance's. Which will determine which amp you'll need to get.

twan 07-19-2008 01:20 PM

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this picture is what my manual says and i dont know which amp will work with series or parallel wiring
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twan 07-19-2008 02:17 PM

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this picture is what my manual says and i dont know which amp will work with series or parallel wiring
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Njord 07-19-2008 02:42 PM

All amps will work with series and parallel wiring. But We still need to know the impedance of your sub. That manual is for both models of sub. 2ohm DVC and 4ohm DVC.

If you have the sub already, you can use a multimeter to read out what the impedance is.

twan 07-19-2008 03:24 PM

okay this is the part that confuses me. in the manual it says that each cvr sizes are 2 or 4 ohm and on the back of the sub it says 2 ohm. but the subwoofer is dual coil so is it 4 ohm in total?

Njord 07-20-2008 02:11 AM

You would refer to your subs as 2ohm DVC (Dual voice coil)
with a 2ohm DVC your choices are 1 ohm or 4 ohm. So you'll need an amp to out put 400w RMS + at 1 ohm (1ohm would be better then 4 ohm in this situation)

twan 07-20-2008 08:16 AM

great, thank you very much!

twan 07-20-2008 08:29 AM

so this AMP would work well correct?

PsychoAcoustics Canada 07-20-2008 08:45 AM

i wonder if kicker realizes they have a swastika in their manual LOL

Njord 07-20-2008 01:01 PM

That amp will work, but you're only going to get 200w RMS. Which would be half of what your sub is rated. It doesn't say if its 1ohm stable.

You need an amp that can deliver 400w RMS at 1ohm. Thats 400wRMS at 2ohm.

twan 07-20-2008 05:01 PM

do you know where i can find one? all the ones i looked up are 400w @ 2 ohm

and what do i have to do to bridge the wires?

_HeC_ 07-20-2008 11:21 PM

i ran a Hifonics BX1000D(1000rms) to 1 12" CVR @1ohm and it loved it :P lol

heres a decently priced 1ohm stable amp, its probably closer to 500rms
NEW HIFONICS BXI-606 CAR AMPLIFIER AMP BXI606 600w Mono - (eBay.ca item 200240614018 end time 30-Jul-08 17:37:00 EDT)

twan 07-21-2008 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by _HeC_ (Post 372325)
i ran a Hifonics BX1000D(1000rms) to 1 12" CVR @1ohm and it loved it :P lol

heres a decently priced 1ohm stable amp, its probably closer to 500rms
NEW HIFONICS BXI-606 CAR AMPLIFIER AMP BXI606 600w Mono - (eBay.ca item 200240614018 end time 30-Jul-08 17:37:00 EDT)

sweet! wont i have a chance of blowing the sub though with 200w extra?

thanks for all your help guys

Njord 07-21-2008 10:19 AM

Its not like you add a little more power then its rated for, then BAM blown sub.
There is the potential of you blowing your sub, but you could do that just as easily with 400wrms (distortion)

If your really worried about it, just don't crank the volume. (when you get up to the max gain/volume your amp/deck will start to distort. This is what destroys speakers/subs.)

twan 07-21-2008 08:43 PM

okay i just bought a hifonics bxi-606 for $160 with shipping and 5 year warrenty. i thank you all for spending the time to educate me about car audio.
cheers

_HeC_ 07-21-2008 08:46 PM

should be a decent little setup, are u going ported with the sub??

twan 07-21-2008 08:51 PM

?
whats porting?
i havent decided either parallel or series curcit

twan 07-21-2008 08:52 PM

i mean it is going to be parallel to get the 1 ohm load

_HeC_ 07-21-2008 09:49 PM

im talking about a ported box or are u going with a sealed one?


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