Monster cables?
12-13-2003, 04:47 PM
#12
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Ha ha ha.. I am going to stand by my experiences and make the two following statements:
1. Cables have a clearly audible effect.
2. If you can't hear the effect of cables, you need better equipment or more experience.
That being said, there are other items that I would put higher on my list in terms of a system budget. Speakers are the number one priority, followed by the head unit, and then the amplifiers. After that, it's all fair game!
1. Cables have a clearly audible effect.
2. If you can't hear the effect of cables, you need better equipment or more experience.
That being said, there are other items that I would put higher on my list in terms of a system budget. Speakers are the number one priority, followed by the head unit, and then the amplifiers. After that, it's all fair game!
12-13-2003, 08:28 PM
#15
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 104
Originally posted by Dave_MacKinnon:
Ha ha ha.. I am going to stand by my experiences and make the two following statements:
1. Cables have a clearly audible effect.
2. If you can't hear the effect of cables, you need better equipment or more experience.
That being said, there are other items that I would put higher on my list in terms of a system budget. Speakers are the number one priority, followed by the head unit, and then the amplifiers. After that, it's all fair game!
Ha ha ha.. I am going to stand by my experiences and make the two following statements:
1. Cables have a clearly audible effect.
2. If you can't hear the effect of cables, you need better equipment or more experience.
That being said, there are other items that I would put higher on my list in terms of a system budget. Speakers are the number one priority, followed by the head unit, and then the amplifiers. After that, it's all fair game!
12-14-2003, 11:02 PM
#19
I agree with the above too. Monster seems to be the worst at stating seemingly ridiculous statements about what their products can do. Look at their home speaker wire. They have 3 levels. All of which are not cheap. Now each level grandly states how it can dramtically improve your systems sound quality and reveal nuances and detail to the highest level. Um, if the level 1 stuff can do it, then why get the level 3 stuff? 
The 3 levels I speak of: http://www.monstercable.com/home_av/...akers_core.asp
Dave, I respect your opinions on equipment and read your reviews with an open mind believing that you are a reliable source of information. I trust what you have to say, basically. But seriously, how can Monsters top-shelf $3,000
SPEAKER cable really sound that incredibly much better than someone elses $1,500 cable or even the level 1 speaker cable? How can copper sound so much different than copper? And their level 2 stuff with the double-end ends for each cable. If that is so great, then why doesn't the top-end cable have it? I dunno. I just see so much contradiction and BS in their product descriptions. I get angry just being on their website. 
What happens before and after the signal travels the speaker cable? It might enter the cable on lowly copper traces on a circuit board of the amp and then travel on insignificant no-name 16 ga. cable once it enters the speaker tower. What about when it passes through the components of the passive crossover? And then down the who-knows-what cable to the individual drivers? There is just so much more to a signal path than the cables we can look at that it seems unimaginable that a cable can affect the sound in any way when it's one small part of the puzzle.
[ December 15, 2003, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: SUX 2BU ]
The 3 levels I speak of: http://www.monstercable.com/home_av/...akers_core.aspDave, I respect your opinions on equipment and read your reviews with an open mind believing that you are a reliable source of information. I trust what you have to say, basically. But seriously, how can Monsters top-shelf $3,000
SPEAKER cable really sound that incredibly much better than someone elses $1,500 cable or even the level 1 speaker cable? How can copper sound so much different than copper? And their level 2 stuff with the double-end ends for each cable. If that is so great, then why doesn't the top-end cable have it? I dunno. I just see so much contradiction and BS in their product descriptions. I get angry just being on their website. What happens before and after the signal travels the speaker cable? It might enter the cable on lowly copper traces on a circuit board of the amp and then travel on insignificant no-name 16 ga. cable once it enters the speaker tower. What about when it passes through the components of the passive crossover? And then down the who-knows-what cable to the individual drivers? There is just so much more to a signal path than the cables we can look at that it seems unimaginable that a cable can affect the sound in any way when it's one small part of the puzzle.
[ December 15, 2003, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: SUX 2BU ]
12-15-2003, 12:10 AM
#20
I simply boycott Monster because I know there's stuff that does the same job for less, and I'm not bothered by over-marketed junk shoved down my throat.
In other words:
Knukonceptz > Monster
[ December 15, 2003, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: Chadxton ]
In other words:
Knukonceptz > Monster
[ December 15, 2003, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: Chadxton ]
