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Weman 04-15-2009 09:33 PM

My system so far pt 2
 
Hey guys back again, lol got a few questions..

My system so far.

Car : 99 Grand Am GT Ram Air 2 door.
Amps: Clarion DPX 1151 (1550W) [Is that RMS or Peak]
Clarion APX 4240 (240W) [RMS Or Peak]
Sub: 13.5" JL Audio W7 [In a box built to speck by yours truly]
Capacitor: Tusami 2
Farad
20VPC
95 Dagrees C [WTF does that mean?]
Head Unit: Kenwood KVT-512

Now some of the questions i have are above in the [ _ _ _ ]

Also im looking to purcase a wiring kit, now i dont really know what gage i need, i may be looking to expand to a differnt type of amp later on so i was thinking 0 gage? I dont want to have to do another install again if i choose to expand.

Now to the box, built to JL Spec Think i went a little over board used 3/4 " MDF With MDF Screws sealed using woodglue and im not so good at cutting so sealed again with caulking.

Heres some pics.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5...0904071650.jpg

danyman 04-15-2009 09:47 PM

the specs for your amp are in RMS. use 0gauge wire. since the amp needs 0 anyway... might need to make a run of 0 and one of 4g for the smaller amp. looks good anyway

vaseline. hope thats your gurls cream and not yours lmao

Weman 04-15-2009 09:53 PM

Its for my soft skin lmao I work in a body shop dry hands suck.

danyman 04-15-2009 10:01 PM

lol ok :P

JohnnyRock1588 04-15-2009 10:28 PM

that W7 is going to hammmmmmer man. definately going to need some 0 ga. stock electrical.... :S u might need to upgrade with 1500+rms
big 3 upgrade, possibly second battery even with that cap as its not going to do much

BigRedGuy 04-15-2009 10:34 PM

Looks good so far.....wondering why you went sealed on the box.....those woofers love a ported enclosure.....:smilie_da

I would use '0' ga.....if you're going to keep the car for a while it will handle enough current for another amp if you decide to add one later.

The 95 degree C mark is the maximum temperature the cap will work properly at......much higher and the internal resistance starts to climb, which defeats the purpose of having it......:ohwell:

Couldn't find the model # you posted, but the DPX 11551 and the DPX 11500 are both rated at 1500w RMS @1 or 2ohm loads (different model years, same basic amp), the 4240 is rated at 60W X 4 @ 4ohms

HTH

CrazyKenKid 04-15-2009 10:59 PM

why do ppl like to use caps for? doesnt' make any sense to me! for the same price you can get a kinetik hc600 or a hc1400 and those work 1000000times better then any cap out there and good part they cost about 20-50 more then a cap!!!! caps are just a glorified volt meter lol!!! (if it has a read out that is)

ndinadis 04-15-2009 11:50 PM

caps do have a purpose, they are not the end all but they do a couple nice things, 1 they filter out any dc voltage (look at how an amp works) second they do release a bit of current quickly to help counteract sudden voltage drops when the amp draws lots as long as the rest of the electrical system is not already being stressed for current. Source current electrical engineering student.

Weman 04-16-2009 07:18 AM

Now would there be anything u guys can suggest that I would need or could use? And yes the cap does have a digital reader

lpchouinard 04-16-2009 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by ndinadis (Post 476770)
caps do have a purpose, they are not the end all but they do a couple nice things, 1 they filter out any dc voltage (look at how an amp works) second they do release a bit of current quickly to help counteract sudden voltage drops when the amp draws lots as long as the rest of the electrical system is not already being stressed for current. Source current electrical engineering student.

If you need an extra caps to filter the ripple from the alternator change the bad alternator or the cheap amp (an amp does have its own internal caps for the PS)

Also, most of the time the voltmeter on those caps are not even reading the right value...

Weman 04-16-2009 03:07 PM

I got a cap I'm going to install it I really don't care weather its worth it or not, anybody got any sugetgens as to what kind of wiring kit to get?

CrazyKenKid 04-16-2009 03:08 PM

the wiring to use will depend on the power you want! i would sugggest 4gauge for 1000rms and 1500rms step up to 0/1 gauge!

tegtime 04-16-2009 03:36 PM

that thing looks huge

CrazyKenKid 04-16-2009 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by tegtime (Post 476921)
that thing looks huge

that it is! lol!!

MR2NR 04-16-2009 03:46 PM

I recommend good ear plugs, no fat chicks and a good 0 gauge dual amp kit.

CrazyKenKid 04-16-2009 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by MR2NR (Post 476928)
I recommend good ear plugs, no fat chicks and a good 0 gauge dual amp kit.

LMAO no fat chix's!!! nicely put!!

how about sound deadener? like are you going to deadener your trunk at all? as for 0/1 gauge wiring kit those aren't to cheap! but check out knu they have good deals most of the time!

wait 0/1 duel amp kit? why not just get 20ft of 0/1 guage wire? i though he was just wiring the cap? or 10ft depending on how long your car is! on avage i used 13ft for my 95 grand am!

Weman 04-16-2009 04:13 PM

i want some extra wire to play with so ill be wanting 20 ft. I eventually plan on sound deadning the trunk yes. ****in expenceive tho wow. So a 10 ft 0 garge dual amp kit eh?

CrazyKenKid 04-16-2009 04:20 PM

for sound deadener check these guys out i have there stuff in my car and i love it! B-Quiet sound deadening materials - B-Quiet Extreme

for 0/1 don't buy an over priced amp kit b/c you don't need rca's to wire your cap all you need is straight wires and a fuse (250 amp fuse!) check this out!
for wiring 0/1 check this out

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productMa...0Fleks%20Kable

for a fuse holder (not sure if you need 2 or 1) check this out

Knukonceptz product detail for IN-LINE WATERPROOF ANL FUSE HOLDER W/ FUSE

for me to get my car up to stuff with power wiring in a second batterie and 2 inline fuse total damage was around 300$ but then again you do it once nad you are good! and some ppl spend up wards of 300$ to do the wiring job!

Weman 04-16-2009 04:43 PM

thanks alot for the help bro.

CrazyKenKid 04-16-2009 04:50 PM

no problem glad i could help you out some!

Nightendday 04-16-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by CrazyKenKid (Post 476929)
LMAO no fat chix's!!! nicely put!!

how about sound deadener? like are you going to deadener your trunk at all? as for 0/1 gauge wiring kit those aren't to cheap! but check out knu they have good deals most of the time!

wait 0/1 duel amp kit? why not just get 20ft of 0/1 guage wire? i though he was just wiring the cap? or 10ft depending on how long your car is! on avage i used 13ft for my 95 grand am!


Well, If the rca's are already ran then yes. But from what I'm reading in the thread they arent. If you are starting from scratch go with MR2NR's suggestion. you will need rca's for both amps if they aren't already ran.

Weman 04-27-2009 08:33 PM

do i need to use 0 gage for my Clarion APX 4240 aswell?

BigRedGuy 04-27-2009 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Weman (Post 479990)
do i need to use 0 gage for my Clarion APX 4240 aswell?

0ga front to back to a distro block, 4ga to the amps from the block.....:smokin:


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