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Hey guys, First i would like to say Thank you For any Assistance you can provide.

I got a BMW e36 328is, i got a 140 alternator in it and a 2004 Lincoln Aviator Battery in it:) and its a dry cell battery i think.. and the stock speakers i have are:

2 5.25 inch Speakers
2 1 inch Tweeter (its easier to put in 3/4 ones though)
2 2.5 inch Speakers

Now i really want great SQ and i like good bass, My car comes with alot of sound deadning stock, but oviously they didnt put it on for sound purposes.

My Budget is 1500 for EVERYTHING, and when i mean everything, i mean, i gotta run all the wires in because im going to take off the stock amplifier.

I was reading about the "Big 3" And I Want to do it, but the only problem is that the battery is in the trunk.... So its going to be alot of work.

My primary choice was to put in;

Alpine CDA-XXXX

2 Alpine Type R 5.25inch powered by 4 x 100 RMS amp (2 chans for the 2.5s)

1 Alpine Type X 12" with a MRP-M1000

I dont know what to do with the 2.5 inch

Also i used to have 2 12" type Rs with a vpower amp, it was under powered, but it Banged!! (i know under powering it is bad!)

And this time i want to set it up right, so that it will last me atleast 5 to 10 years.

So guys I Would really love any input you guys can give me!!

I want good sound quality, and Deep bass!!! For under 1500!

Also I dont want it to take away alot of trunk space like my type r's did,

I know the type X require 2 cubic feet in a ported box, so what are my options guys!!!!

And i really do appreciate the HELP!!!!

Are you going to be playing CDs? Or just an iPod? Or both? Alpine makes a great deck for iPods and iPhones but I only ever read bad reviews on thier cd parts messing up all the time.

The Big 3 setup is only good if you alternator can handle it.

What do you mean by that?

Just curious.....

Don't forget to budget in for speaker wire, RCA's, Sub Box, Power wire, in line fusing, mounting hardware, and a litany of little budget killers. You have pretty high taste for your budget, have you priced everything out?

I would express caution with the purchase of the $$$ Type X subwoofer as it is very box sensitive, I have heard it sound like the best sub made on one song and on the next sound like dog poop.

I was thinking of making my own amp wiring kit, so i think i should save some money that way, also im going to soulder all the wires.

I dont understand what you meant by the big three only good if my alternator is? can you explain more?

Also i found a type x 12 inch on ebay for only $330 roughly

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ALPINE-SWX-1243D-CAR-AUDIO-12-INCH-TYPE-X-SUBWOOFER-SUB_W0QQitemZ360263661936QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Su bwoofers_Enclosures?hash=item53e1633970

I also found Type x Component for roughly $210 and it comes with tweeters.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ALPINE-SPX-13REF-5-1-4-Type-X-COMPONENT-SPEAKER-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ200474726597QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Speakers?hash=item2ead3990c5

What do you think is a good product, i really dont know anything about audio...

And im trying to learn what ever i can,

And i just want a system that costs about 1500, and that wont break on me.
I want it to last like 10 years! and i know its not good to underpower them or over power them, so im just looking at what would help to reach my goal.

You can underpower a speaker all day long, it is too much power that you need to worry about. If you are interested in a deal on products bought in Canada from a reliable dealer, I will work something up for you. There is no point in going into this big system if the little alternator that should, can't. Work within the realm of what you have available. If it means that you must build the system up over time, attack it that way. Two basic subs for example can easily get loud and sound good doing so. It is all about the careful match of components in this case that will make your system work effectively.

Do the "big three" for sure always good
If you want it under 1500 then maybie you can buy the good hu a very nice component set for front, 4 channel amp. and a decent efficient type sub..if you can afford the trunk space. the you will have all good stuff and can upgrade later if u want
just run comps off 2 channels of amp, bridge other two for sub.. if you need rear speakers can be run off deck power. if you need later get big amp and anouther sub to add later? then you free up 2 more channels from 4 ch amp to use for rear or to bi amp or waterver however you want to upgrade .
dont know your car that well what are the two inchers ? in front? you looking to run ther factory speakers or sometheng?

just a side note:

crutchfield has the polk audio mm line on sale, good speakers at a reasonable price.

That is a very good idea!! Also the 2inchers are on the door, along with the tweeter, and the 5.25 is in kicker panel (the panel next to the drivers foot)

So what do you think is a good choice? Also i would like to have a good sub. something equivilent to a Type X. Are there any subs that are = to the Type X but requires less space?

But i guess for now i could just buy a good head unit, 2 5.25" and 2 2inchers. Do you know what i should go with and what amp i should use for it? I really dont even know what a good car set-up should sound like.

Just because there are spaces in the doors for speakers does not mean you must fill them. Get a respectable set of 5.25" 2way component speakers and call it a day right there. If you are just getting started in this and don't know exactly what to do, do not overcomplicate things. If you are willing to work with me, I will ensure that you get a respectable system for your budget.

like mr2nr said skip the 2 inchers just get the 5.25 comp set
how much trunk space can u use for sub?
big box efficient sub small box sub =power hog

Well i move around alot and have alot of car parts that needs to fit in the trunk. and im looking for something wide, so that it can fit in the back of the trunk,

I suggest you find someone with a decent SQ setup and take a good listen. Then start asking questions like, "what did you start with?" and "do you plan to change it?".

The $1500 budget might be tight with all the wiring and accessories to make a reliable system. Reliability may not equal sound quality if you're going to pound on it often. I've heard some real nice sounding speakers and I've also heard them go scratchy and smelled the music.

Really for a SQ system the stock alt should be fine. Upgrading the big 3 only helps with reliability of your power supply to the amp/s and helps them do what they are designed to do. You're probably not going to be drawing 1800 watts with an everyday sq system. Realisticly you'll be listening to music at moderate levels and only be putting out about 500 watts total. Remember if you're listening to your music at 60% volume and your amp is tated at 100w rms, it's probably going to be putting out about 60 watts at that volume. Maybe a nice 300 or 400 watt 4 ch. amp would suffice.

I thought I read somewhere if your alternator doesnt run many amps then doing the big 3 will just draw power that isnt there and slowely kill the alternator? So I thought you would need to get a 200 amp alternator?

Thats just what I thought but it sounds like I am wrong lol.

Hit me up bro. I am in the Dixon & Martingrove area. You can have a listen to my car, I have a total of $1500 in gear in my car and it will blow away a lot of $3k+ systems. It is more to do with picking stuff that will work together then installing it properly than what stuff you buy. Listen to MR2NR, Rob is an awesome guy and will be greatly missed here. Unless you are installing everything yourself do not forget to add that cost into your budget as well. There are a few of us here willing to help out with installs. (For a price of course LOL) :smokin:
Nick

OP: can I ask why you are stuck on the Type X? The M1000 on a single 12" Type R would sound much better and be more flexible than the X. It is a more sensitive sub, and with that amount of power, it'll be tight, accurate bass that will boom when you need it too. It won't need a huge box either. The Type X is more geared to competition, and even there you won't see a whole lot of serious competitors running them, if any. If you like the Type X gear, stick to the X's for 5.25" components. Personally, I would be talking to MR2NR for a set of Morel components, but it's really up to you

I too would be talking with me.... thanks dude. 3 weeks and my doors are closed. The time for deals is right now.

Ur closing down in 3 weeks :O!!!

And im probably gonna be there in 2 1/2 weeks! Also what are u running in ur own personal car??


im gonna see if i can copy u, :cheeky4:

unless ur system is like 5000 bucks:dunno:

My truck is now stock but a new Eclipse Van system is going in and probably some pointsource 5x7" speakers. Just simple is all I need. Enough to listen to tunes as I plow snow or drive equipment from point A to point B.

I had 2 type r's but they were very under powered, i think it was like 250 rms each sub, and honestly they were extremly loud, once in winter i actually got a head ache from my brain vibating too much to the bass:P, also my windows were up and no real ventilation for the soundwaves to exit.

And i thought that the type X are the best that alpine got to offer, i stuck to alpine because so many of my friends subs fot fried and my alpine lasted a long time, and took a whole beat, i even kept it in my car while auto-crossing!

only reason i sold my type r's is because they take up too much room, so i thought maybe putting in one type x will help.

So i guess i should look into a type R? Also whats a really good deck for my money.

Pick up one of my last Eclipse CD5030 while you still can.