General Discussion General discussion about all things car audio, from pioneer, orion, alpine and eclipse.

Old school amp

Old 04-24-2006, 09:01 AM
  #1  
50 Watt CAFz'r
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
 
4boyssss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 216
Old school amp

I have an Orion XTR2250 - needed your opinion! As far as I can find, this amp handles a clean 2200 watts rms power? If I am to sell it, what would you think it's worth?
4boyssss is offline  
Old 04-24-2006, 09:17 AM
  #2  
1000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (1)
 
Tom.F.1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,217
Be realistic.

Orion XTR2250
a.k.a. The Beast
2 x 250W @ 4 ohm (12V)
2 x 500W @ 2 ohm (12V)
1 x 1000W @ 4 ohm bridge (12V)
1 x 1200W @ 4 ohm bridge (14.4V)
Tom.F.1 is offline  
Old 04-24-2006, 09:58 AM
  #3  
2000 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (5)
 
Hardwrkr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,542
Ebay will give you an idea on what you can expect to get for one. Pricing will vary with the amps physical and working condition.

If it's in nice condition shoot me a PM and I might be interested.
Hardwrkr is offline  
Old 06-03-2006, 11:49 PM
  #4  
50 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (1)
 
03rejo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 137
Originally Posted by Tom.F.1
Be realistic.

Orion XTR2250
a.k.a. The Beast
2 x 250W @ 4 ohm (12V)
2 x 500W @ 2 ohm (12V)
1 x 1000W @ 4 ohm bridge (12V)
1 x 1200W @ 4 ohm bridge (14.4V)
Be realistic? It's orion rating we're talking about here, old school orion. Hell my 275HCCA pushes 1800RMS and is rated at 150wRMS. There's what you see and then theres what it does.

All orion rating were 12v ratings, and the XTR amps could go easily to 1ohm mono stable my hcca amps go .25ohm stable.
03rejo is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 03:03 AM
  #5  
500 Watt CAFz'r
iTrader: (4)
 
Newb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 728
Originally Posted by 03rejo
Be realistic? It's orion rating we're talking about here, old school orion. Hell my 275HCCA pushes 1800RMS and is rated at 150wRMS. There's what you see and then theres what it does.


HCCA amps were underrated but I'd like to see a bench test verifying that...
Newb is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 05:10 AM
  #6  
50 Watt CAFz'r
 
Reekor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 151
The beast is only 2ohms stable and under rated at 1000 watts. Great amp in it's day. Now days with class D mono blocks, it just does not make sense to run a class A/B amp unless you need that kind of power for your mids.

Originally Posted by 03rejo
Be realistic? It's orion rating we're talking about here, old school orion. Hell my 275HCCA pushes 1800RMS and is rated at 150wRMS. There's what you see and then theres what it does.

All orion rating were 12v ratings, and the XTR amps could go easily to 1ohm mono stable my hcca amps go .25ohm stable.
Reekor is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 10:04 AM
  #7  
Administrator
 
Dukk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,855
Arrow

275HCCA pushes 1800RMS
Dukk is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 10:26 AM
  #8  
500 Watt CAFz'r
 
ShonBesharah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 649
Originally Posted by Newb


HCCA amps were underrated but I'd like to see a bench test verifying that...
Back in the day the HCCA stuff was extremely hi-end! IASCA use to run power classes, all classes were rated at 4ohm. The HCCA line would run down to .5ohm (HCCA 225 would do .25ohm) each time you split the impedance the amp would double in power. Manufacturers would under rare there products back then to give there customers an advantage. Many products today do the opposite for sales advantages!
I dont remember hearing the expression dynamic power back in 1993. We would run entire cars off 30 watt amps.And they sounded loud! I believe full power output on a HCCA 250 (2x50 watts) was arround 650 watts.some of these old amps had huge damping factors, a spec that was proudly advertised.I dont think I've seen any big manufacter do that in a while.
ShonBesharah is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 10:27 AM
  #9  
500 Watt CAFz'r
 
ShonBesharah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 649
Does anyone remember the model number of orions 1watt amp?
ShonBesharah is offline  
Old 06-04-2006, 10:46 AM
  #10  
Administrator
 
Dukk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 16,855
Talking

^ Wasn't that the Concept 97.1 or something?

And for sure the HCCA lineup was and is a killer lineup but a 275HCCA isn't gonna do 1800rms unless you plug it into a wall
Dukk is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Old school amp



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:46 AM.