Old school amp
06-07-2006, 05:13 PM
#61
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by Dukk
A few things here.
You are proud cuz you smoked a speaker? Good for you! 100s of morons do that every year - you are as talented as they are!
157 or 165? ON a pair of Pioneer 10s (yeah TSW100s - BFD) What's that sound?? Ohhh, that's your credibilty being flushed away...
You don't even know my setup.. man... I guess I have only one emoticon for that:
Go back to hanging out at the junior high, deafening everyone with your 10s..
You are proud cuz you smoked a speaker? Good for you! 100s of morons do that every year - you are as talented as they are!
157 or 165? ON a pair of Pioneer 10s (yeah TSW100s - BFD) What's that sound?? Ohhh, that's your credibilty being flushed away...
You don't even know my setup.. man... I guess I have only one emoticon for that:
Go back to hanging out at the junior high, deafening everyone with your 10s..I didn't smoke speakers because I wanted to or am proud of it, I did because the amp was unknowingly to much power for the crap components even at 1/4.
FYI just because you don't own an amp or lived through the cheater amp era doesn't mean that it didn't happen or that they didn't exist. Everybody during those days INSTANTLY knew when the PPI's were being manufactured in China because of the SQ and power output. And PPI's name went to crap.
BTW the Blade Grenades THD was rated at something obscene like 0.0009 and that was thier low end line.
You act like.. "That is BS and they claimed a bunch of BS" but yet claim that manufactures "claim" realistic ratings today. Your a real class act man and the only person that looks like a tool is the person that thinks they know it all but don't have a clue about the old amplifiers abilities or read about the bench tests back in the day.
BTW how old are you 12? Best that you stick with your high SQ class D Jensen cr@p.
BTW you rave about how great new amps are.. well if class D is that great why do I rarely see it if ever in high end home audio? Because class D sucks for SQ audio reproduction.
Read this to educate yourself.
http://stereos.about.com/od/homestereotechnologies/a/amp_op_classes.htm
Infact almost all high end home audio amps are class A or AB and kick the living tar out of 95% of all car audio. I don't think you can find a SQ home audio class D setup because of the inherant way class - D amps work. They are used on subs because bass is distorted anyway and the human hear doesn't pick it up.
Last edited by Faststang; 06-07-2006 at 05:37 PM.
06-07-2006, 05:18 PM
#62
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by veeman
Well, if the old school stuff is so amazing, why have all the spl records been broken. I remember the van loads of amps and subs back in the day, none of them hit 180 dB's. Infact, those amazing( I'll admit they were in the day) 1500 watt amps, are just that...1500 watts. A watt is a watt, whether a Chinese person put it together or a Good ole boy. With regards to the SQ and amps...see Mr. Clark!!! As far as reliability, many more amps are built today for a larger number of buyers= more sent for repairs, it's a numbers game. I recently spoke to a prominent independant Amp repair facility that repairs most of the brands we all use. His comment, when asked what he thought of the new RF amps;" I get a few RF amps, but they sell so many that it's not even an issue. They use very good parts and are very well built, and offer excellent service when I need parts. Most of the problems are from user error, overheating due to bad install, and improper wiring for the correct load." Anyway, continue discussing this is a fun thread.
06-07-2006, 05:25 PM
#63
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,267
Originally Posted by Faststang
LOL, your a real class act man. A real winner and in reality, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not because the way you act proves who the tool is around here. I could easilly get 2 or 3 people in here to confirm my story about the dual 10's SPL output but why bother with you.
I didn't smoke speakers because I wanted to or am proud of it, I did because the amp was unknowingly to much power for the crap components even at 1/4.
FYI just because you don't own an amp or lived through the cheater amp era doesn't mean that it didn't happen or that they didn't exist. Everybody during those days INSTANTLY knew when the PPI's were being manufactured in China because of the SQ and power output. And PPI's name went to crap.
BTW the Blade Grenades THD was rated at something obscene like 0.0009 and that was thier low end line.
You act like.. "That is BS and they claimed a bunch of BS" but yet claim that manufactures "claim" realistic ratings today. Your a real class act man and the only person that looks like a tool is the person that thinks they know it all but don't have a clue about the old amplifiers abilities or read about the bench tests back in the day.
BTW how old are you 12? Best that you stick with your high SQ Jensen cr@p.
I didn't smoke speakers because I wanted to or am proud of it, I did because the amp was unknowingly to much power for the crap components even at 1/4.
FYI just because you don't own an amp or lived through the cheater amp era doesn't mean that it didn't happen or that they didn't exist. Everybody during those days INSTANTLY knew when the PPI's were being manufactured in China because of the SQ and power output. And PPI's name went to crap.
BTW the Blade Grenades THD was rated at something obscene like 0.0009 and that was thier low end line.
You act like.. "That is BS and they claimed a bunch of BS" but yet claim that manufactures "claim" realistic ratings today. Your a real class act man and the only person that looks like a tool is the person that thinks they know it all but don't have a clue about the old amplifiers abilities or read about the bench tests back in the day.
BTW how old are you 12? Best that you stick with your high SQ Jensen cr@p.
06-07-2006, 05:26 PM
#64
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,267
Originally Posted by Faststang
If I recall I think the Kicker car did more than 180 db's back in the day. ONE HUGE SINGLE SUB sitting in the middle of the rear. And one HUGE A/C cooled amp running the length of where the rear seat use to be.
if thats the Talon you are talking about he was running about 20,000w....not 200
06-07-2006, 05:44 PM
#66
You guys have to admit that 200 Watts out of a Sony and 2 10" subs hiting 157-165Db is really hard to chew. Back in the day I was running a USAamps VL150 which was doing around 390W RMS with 2 10" subs and hit 135Db in a Hyundai Excel. I also fail to believe on a comp. mic and meter system the Sony would out do the USamps. And this is why Dukk mentioned proof. You have to totally understand his point. And what he is also saying is that everyone stretches there specs. now.
And BTW AB amps are cleaner power, less distortion, and have more head room. Some D Class amps run at 10%THD.
And BTW AB amps are cleaner power, less distortion, and have more head room. Some D Class amps run at 10%THD.
