Ontario youth listening to music at dangerous levels: survey
 

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pfft...
If it's not car stereos, it'll be mp3 players. Simple as that. In fact, it's worse with those because of the ear bud headphones which go directly to your ears. You'd be amazed at how loud some people listen to their music. I never blast mine unless I'm in a car, and even then I don't like it too loud just so I can make sure I can hear cars around me if I need to.

The testing criteria and sample size are laughable at best.

Measure your Friends sound levels? Teenagers? Gee, they wouldn't try to outdo one another now would they?

No control group.
No controlled environment (car different than living room).
Small sample size.
Sustained DB or peaks?

Looks like another "lets spend the money so our surplus budget isn't chopped off next years budget" crapola study.

I'm curious as to why they did the study? Do they plan on imposing some kind of limit to volume, and the length of time one can be subjected to it?

Extreme volume isn't a necessity. Music only has to be loud enough to be audible. But volume can make it more enjoyable. Pounding bass can get your adrenaline pumping.

As we get older, I think we're less inclined to enjoy all that volume anyway. Unfortunately, the damage has already been done.

Does any one know if they've suffered some hearing loss already? I've been listening to my stereo loud for the past 9 years. Mind you, I've never had the volume measured, but I'm sure its over 91dB's. But I think my hearing is fine.

Well lets hope they don't add more laws...

Apparently tomorrow, young drivers (under 21) can't speed or they loose their license, no more tickets. Also, people with G2 licenses, can only have 1 teenage passenger, no more unless they are relatives. Also, no alcohol whatsoever, but I already thought that was the rule.

Yes, although difficult to attribute strictly to music, loud or otherwise.

-Many, many concerts.
-Lifetime of Bullseye shooting.
-Constant target shooting.
-Hunting.
-Loud music.
-25 yrs in Machine Shops
-Hereditary?
-Age.

Who knows where to pin it, but its about 30% gone in both ears. High frequencies are the most difficult to hear now, but any low background noise (machinery, droning plane, etc) makes it very hard to hear anything at all, especially conversation.

John

I want to know who is only hitting 91 dB?

The guy who is "Tired of Hearing the Solo X's as the Loudest Sub on the Planet."

I'm not a teen... but hell yeah I'm listening to music at a dangerous level...

I'll have to put my hand up for this one. Loud music is bad for you. But I'm not talking about 91 db levels tho.

I`ve been saying this for some time now ... everyone has a phone, everyone has a MP3 player and it`s all getting louder and louder as we move forward ...
It`s not even car audio, its strictly MP3 players IMO.

Waste of money in terms of a study though.

we've had walkmans for 25 years now. As I recall...they all used headphones and could be played as loud as ipods back then. This was an issue in 1985, and it's the same one now. Most of my peers from those days aren't deaf now, I don't see why the next 25 years should be any different. Quite frankly, most baby boomers at 40 years old were way more deaf than I or my friends are now...that's from personal experience with my parents...lol...but it's true, I remember the old man and his buddies constantly yelling...i can only assume they had trouble hearing.

if 91 is a dangerous level, then that means that most of us probably listen to our music at 4 or 5 times that volume(on average)Isn't a car going down the highway something like 100-110db? I like my music loud and I don't think my hearing is that bad, I can still hear the high pitched soud a TV makes when it's turned on from another room. When they do these studies why don't they show the group sampling size, or any of the variables to validate the study. They just simply throw out numbers to scare people.

Its quite common for people hard of hearing to talk loudly. Dont know why, maybe because we think everyone else is deaf too :)

all I know is listening to my system avg 110db - 130db for 40 minutes(work commute) gives me the high pitched ringing in my ears - is it bad sure - do I give a sh!t - not really!

I get yearly hearing tests, as I have been working in a cabinet shop for the last 7-8years. My hearing tests seem to get better each year. I have listened to my music at 135+db for the past like prob 10 years. I have pretty damn good hearing still. I think its a bogus test

Tinnitus

The causes of tinnitus aren't completely known or understood and reasons can't always be found. In many cases, though, the sounds can be caused by illnesses or injuries such as:

heart disease or high blood pressure
infections in the ear or sinuses
drug side effects
blows to the head
hearing trauma such as exposure to loud explosions or to extremely loud music
hearing loss
objects lodged in the ear canal or a build-up of ear wax
dental problems
certain types of tumours

I was told (much too late) by a doctor that by the time your ears are ringing, damage has already been caused. I had a S&W 686 .357 fired about 2 feet away from my right ear one time. My right ear decided to ring for a while. About 20 years so far and counting.

Welcome to the police state called Ontario...

I will add that back in highschool I listened to earbuds at high volume.. loud enough that people 5 feet away could hear the music.. since I work in an office these days I am listening to earbuds again and people can hear the music.. sometimes it's too loud and I have to turn it down.. but it's not nearly as loud as my components with 250 watts per side..


Last time I checked my threshold for hearing was around 18kHz..

when it's quiet and my head is against a pillow my ears definatly ring..


I should probably turn the volume down..

Yup 25 years of loud stereos home and car, heavy metal concerts and now if I listen to the car system for any length of time the ringing in my ears is so loud it will almost keep me awake at night. Oh well time to go install my new amp LOL. Would someone answer that damn phone LMAO.

I called it "ringing", but with me its more like a waterfall sound, or like an air hose in the other room. Almost like a hissing sound. 24/7.

No trouble sleeping though, volume control on TV trumps ringing ears.

John