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AAAAAAA 10-25-2006 06:37 PM

Powering a car audio amp at home... computer power supply?
 
i think thats how you do it, I just need to test and make sure a few amplifiers work properly , can I rig up an old computer power supply to test it? If so is there a link somewhere or any specific wire colors to use?

Thanks guys.

dongchen_han 10-25-2006 06:52 PM

yeah it could works, but u must have a very powerful PSU that can handle it, depending what amp u use, if you have a 400Wrms amp then you have to get a 600 or 700watt psu, or, check out the sticker on the 12V rail, what amperage is rated, my 500watt PSU have 28Amp on 12V so P=IV , 336watt max. For turning on the AMP you have to find it yourself.

JordyO 10-25-2006 07:22 PM

If he's using a 400w amp he can still use a 'lesser' power supply... it's not like he's going to be maxing the output of the amp if he's just testing it to see if it turns on and plays at low volume.

dogstar 10-25-2006 11:41 PM

please dont use a power supply that you care about, or want to use in a computer.

ive burnt up about 4 power supplys doing this... they work for a while, but i was told that they dont operate properly if there isnt a load on the 3.3 and 5 volt lines. i guess they run hot or something... im no tech, i just know that its bad for them.

if you google for 12volt power supply you should be able to find lots of options, generally theyre cheaper than a decent quality computer psu.

JordyO 10-26-2006 08:08 AM

Knowing what he does for a living..... he can probably get a bunch of ATX supplies for free (or close to it) ... :D

belcom 10-26-2006 08:17 AM

use a car battery. that would be a much safer way both for your amp and power supply

AAAAAAA 10-26-2006 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by belcom
use a car battery. that would be a much safer way both for your amp and power supply

Yeah but I have no RCA output source near my truck.

I can get a hold of power supplys, what I need to confirm is that red is power and black is ground right? I can then use red again for the remote turn on.

I will only be powering them on for a few seconds, I am sure the pc power supplys should do the trick.

belcom 10-26-2006 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by AAAAAAA
Yeah but I have no RCA output source near my truck.

I can get a hold of power supplys, what I need to confirm is that red is power and black is ground right? I can then use red again for the remote turn on.

I will only be powering them on for a few seconds, I am sure the pc power supplys should do the trick.

not sure why you need RCA. It will say on the battery where the + and - are. But yes red means + (power). Also check to see what kind of remote turn on input voltage your amp takes. I don't think it's good idea to use the constant car battery lead for that but maybe it will be fine I dunno. You might get away with just using a simple 3v or maybe 9v volt battery for remote turn on.

computer power supply will simply fry as it doesn't provide enough current to run the amp. I tried that once with a deck and that's what happened. But an amp draws much more than a deck I think.

AAAAAAA 10-26-2006 09:38 AM

Seems like its the yellow wire that is the 12 volt power wire.
I didnt think of it but I need the computer to power on the power supply so this solution wont work.

Oh well

Haunz 10-26-2006 09:52 AM

I use a 12v supply out of a computer for all my amp testing....

if you are repairing amps it is a must to use a low current power source or you could end up burning up the new parts you just spent $100 on.....





for ghetto style car audio/home audio conversion... about a dozen power supplys in parallel and a small battery and you should be set....... :la:

belcom 10-26-2006 10:03 AM

well in any case.... here's some usefull info on ATX power supplies....

ATX power supplies differ from AT power supplies in several important regards. Major among these is that ATX supplies depend on logic circuits on the motherboard to turn it on. Once the power switch is flipped, the power switch on the ATX power supply (some ATX power supplies do not even have such a switch), the ATX power supply sends a 5V 720MA current to the motherboard through pin 9 on the power connector. That current is for WOL (Wake-up On Lan) and power on circuits. A power-on jumper on the motherboard connects to the pushbutton located in front of ATX case. When the pushbutton is pressed, it sends a signal to the motherboard, which in turn notifies the ATX power supply to turn on full power. The location of the power-on jumper on the motherboard is manufacture dependent. One needs to read the motherboard manual to locate that jumper. At any event, do not try to manually jump-start the power supply without attaching the motherboard. The power supply is expecting certain sensing circuit feedback to regulate the output voltage, manually starting it without attaching it to the motherboard could cause damage to the power supply.

While we're at it, you can power up an ATX power supply by shorting the green wire with any black ground wire. As you know, the ATX power supply will not turn on normally without a motherboard connected to it. There are times when you may want to test an ATX power supply or use the voltage from one but don't really want to hook up a motherboard. There's only one green wire and there are plenty of ground wires so it's easy to do. To use a bent paper clip and insert one end in the green wire connector and bend it around and put it into a black wire connector.

Haunz 10-26-2006 12:08 PM

nice read with detailed instructions.

How to Convert a Computer ATX Power Supply to a Lab Power Supply - WikiHow

Discotek 10-27-2006 01:25 AM

If you are just going to do some basic power testing (turn on, and test at low output), you can probably get by with a computer supply. A better idea however, would be to get a proper 12v power supply so that you have a bit more leeway with what you can do. I have an Iota 55 amp power supply that I got off of eBay for a great price, and I have been very happy with it.

Clarion_Guy_2001 10-27-2006 09:27 AM

I do this setup all the time. Red is not the +12v wire. Its usually the Yellow one. To be safe since colour codes may differ, use a Volt meter to test the proper voltage.
Its nice to have a power supply with the 0 | 1 switch on the back. That way if you overload the powersupply, you simply switch it off and on and it resets the breaker.

Most of the power supplies i run display only 15-25 Amps.

This is a cheap solution, but the power suppplies on computers are "UNREGULATED". The expensive $200 test lab supplies you buy are regulated.
The difference is that when a heavy load is placed on the unregulated, it will drop the voltage down significantly therefore increasing the current and leads to overheating. The regulated power supply will maintain its steady voltage within a very close amount.

Don't expect to run over 300-400 full wattage out of your amplifer.
Try to obtain old SERVER power supplies from ebay. Some of those delivery incredible power. e.g. 40-60 amps @ 12 volts


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