Reconing
07-10-2004, 07:50 PM
#1
Hi Gents,
Upon removing my Kicker K65's from the stock door panels in my car (I had some rewiring planned), I noticed the surrounds of both of them have come off the basket. The only places the surrounds are still attached are at the mounting holes. It seems the adhesive used to attach them has crapped out (weather?, poor manufacturing materials?, glue eating bugs?). Has anyone had this problem? Is this common? Is it fixable and how much will it cost? I'd appreciate any help (the speakers weren't cheap!).
Upon removing my Kicker K65's from the stock door panels in my car (I had some rewiring planned), I noticed the surrounds of both of them have come off the basket. The only places the surrounds are still attached are at the mounting holes. It seems the adhesive used to attach them has crapped out (weather?, poor manufacturing materials?, glue eating bugs?). Has anyone had this problem? Is this common? Is it fixable and how much will it cost? I'd appreciate any help (the speakers weren't cheap!).
07-10-2004, 08:30 PM
#2
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Basically you're saying the most outer part of the sub "rubber" came off the metal basket? If everything else is still good then you don't have to pay someone to fix them if you know how to use pre-school glue skills! 
j/k
What I would do is pull what's still glued off and then slap in some new glue all around and let it dry. What kind of glue you ask? Well you could go with Elmer's white glue (not recommended - too cheap and might crack), contact glue (dries quick so watch out), carpet glue (i've used it and it's ok), silicone or derivatives in a tube.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
j/kWhat I would do is pull what's still glued off and then slap in some new glue all around and let it dry. What kind of glue you ask? Well you could go with Elmer's white glue (not recommended - too cheap and might crack), contact glue (dries quick so watch out), carpet glue (i've used it and it's ok), silicone or derivatives in a tube.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
07-11-2004, 02:27 PM
#7
500 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 901
I've reconed alot of woofers as well as mids and goop is awsome, it wirks amazing on surrounds put it on the basket and then use some type of ring to hold it down and your good to go, let dry one day
Also works on spiders etc.....
You can use a CA glue with accelerator but if you use a glue that you let dry for a longer period of time it will be stronger, goop almost stays a tiny bit flexible and totall hard so it won't crack which is what you want
Also works on spiders etc.....
You can use a CA glue with accelerator but if you use a glue that you let dry for a longer period of time it will be stronger, goop almost stays a tiny bit flexible and totall hard so it won't crack which is what you want
07-11-2004, 08:05 PM
#9
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 113
Goop is the same thing as shoe goo.
Sold under the "shoe goo" label to target that specific market opportunity, that's essentially all.
Personally, I'd use the CA glue - "super glue"...
...I'd pick up the gel formula, makes it very easy to use, cures just slightly slower, isn't runny... and CA glue is used in the assembly of your speaker at any rate (although generally on the former joints).
It'll bond well to both the surround and the basket - even painted and unsanded.
Contact cement would be my second choice... but it'll be difficult to apply the contact cement to both surfaces, and keep them separated as the cement sets up, before making the permanent bond.
By contrast, the CA "super glue" gel formula would be a speedy and easy repair.
Sold under the "shoe goo" label to target that specific market opportunity, that's essentially all.
Personally, I'd use the CA glue - "super glue"...
...I'd pick up the gel formula, makes it very easy to use, cures just slightly slower, isn't runny... and CA glue is used in the assembly of your speaker at any rate (although generally on the former joints).
It'll bond well to both the surround and the basket - even painted and unsanded.
Contact cement would be my second choice... but it'll be difficult to apply the contact cement to both surfaces, and keep them separated as the cement sets up, before making the permanent bond.
By contrast, the CA "super glue" gel formula would be a speedy and easy repair.
07-11-2004, 11:34 PM
#10
500 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 952
I'd recommend you ship the speakers to our shop at www.speakercity.ca we specialize in loudspeaker repairs and modifications.
Keep in mind that if you plan on re-attaching the surround without removing the dustcap and centering the coil, your repair will fail, and you will need another cone kit, or another speaker.
Avoid using the adhesives mentioned so far, the proper adhesive is a latex based ester that is made by Dunlop .
Keep in mind that if you plan on re-attaching the surround without removing the dustcap and centering the coil, your repair will fail, and you will need another cone kit, or another speaker.
Avoid using the adhesives mentioned so far, the proper adhesive is a latex based ester that is made by Dunlop .
