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Shoua 08-06-2006 07:20 PM

Shallow mount Pioneer Subs
 
Has anyone here used these subs in a system? They seem pretty cool being able to fit in tight spaces, but how loud are they?

I just bought an 06' Supercrew and space under the rear seats is limited.I am trying to find something thats loud but will fit in the back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Brad-S.A. 08-06-2006 07:40 PM

Some other options are Clarion, Blaupunkt, Kole Audio, Power Acoustics, and the Pioneers. I have not heard the Pioneers but had a chance to hear the Clarion 10" Slims and sound quite. Nice. But there is a few options for you in your search.

BIG UNIT 08-06-2006 09:16 PM

heard a pair installed in a 2000-ish for extended cab and they were nice and loud. I was impressed !

ayreborn 08-06-2006 10:17 PM

I have heard both the 10's and the 12's they sound great!

MR2NR 08-07-2006 12:36 AM

I agree, give them the right box and they do a above average job. I am considering them for my Supercrew.

crabmustang 08-07-2006 07:08 AM

For being slim line subs, they sound quite good when I heard them in a simular application to yours.

snipes12 08-07-2006 07:25 AM

Just bought a pair off ebay for my buddy's little ford ranger 2 12's they sound real good and pretty loud for the size of the things i would recomend them :)

-Richard

theboy 08-07-2006 12:13 PM

i heard 2 kicker l5 8" woofers in a ported box behind the seat that amazed with the amount of output. earthquake also makes a very shallow mount woofer that i havent heard but have heard good things about

Shoua 08-07-2006 12:46 PM

Well i am wondering how 3 12's in a sealed box would compare to 2 15's in a bandpass box. I think i am sure gonna miss having my 15's

MR2NR 08-07-2006 01:41 PM

While you might have the physical space to mount the 3 12" drivers down there, your limiting factor is going to be the box. Figure out how much box space you will have, then choose 1,2 or 3 subs based on that. I would also consider the DD 8" driver, we used it in a small slot port box and it just plain blew away any other sub that was anything near comparable for that size of box. (1.25cu.ft)

MR2NR 08-07-2006 01:41 PM

While you might have the physical space to mount the 3 12" drivers down there, your limiting factor is going to be the box. Figure out how much box space you will have, then choose 1,2 or 3 subs based on that. I would also consider the DD 8" driver, we used it in a small slot port box and it just plain blew away any other sub that was anything near comparable for that size of box. (1.25cu.ft)

Westec 08-07-2006 02:31 PM

I heard 4 10s (SWS10 from Equathquake) in a 1.3 cuft box, behind the seat of a 2004 quadcab on the back wall against the rear seat and it made the snot come out of head it pounded so hard.

I did a '05 Nissian Frontier with he Poineer 10, its sounded good just was missing the low down dirty bass that I love....

Shoua 08-07-2006 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by MR2NR
While you might have the physical space to mount the 3 12" drivers down there, your limiting factor is going to be the box. Figure out how much box space you will have, then choose 1,2 or 3 subs based on that. I would also consider the DD 8" driver, we used it in a small slot port box and it just plain blew away any other sub that was anything near comparable for that size of box. (1.25cu.ft)

Well the pioneers need only .5 cu each so thats why i was thing bout using 3 of em.

i just don't know about an 8" it seems small. I like loud and deep bass will an 8" even give me that?

MR2NR 08-07-2006 05:06 PM

Realize as well that when a manufacturer lists the smallest size box, it is usually the smallest size box that can still produce some type of output but it is in 99% of the cases, far from the desired output. If you want 3, then do 3, if you want to explore the importance of the box and the room you have available, then choose the number of drivers, do that as well. In any case you are going to get some output, the type and how much is up to you and the research that you do. Good bass response is all about the box.

Shoua 08-08-2006 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by MR2NR
Realize as well that when a manufacturer lists the smallest size box, it is usually the smallest size box that can still produce some type of output but it is in 99% of the cases, far from the desired output. If you want 3, then do 3, if you want to explore the importance of the box and the room you have available, then choose the number of drivers, do that as well. In any case you are going to get some output, the type and how much is up to you and the research that you do. Good bass response is all about the box.

That is something i have overlooked. Do you know if these shallow mounts can be used in a ported box? it'd sure be nice if 1 12" would pound hard.

ayreborn 08-08-2006 06:12 PM

I heard 4 of the 12" Pioneer Premiers in a regular cab Dodge Rumble bee pick up they were in a sealed box, I was very impressed.

Haunz 08-08-2006 06:34 PM

learn to use a box design program and model the things..... shallow mount are nice but as MR2NR points out it dosen't necassarilly mean they will work well in a really small box.......


I looked at both subs and as I recall the earthquakes seemed like they were a much more powerfull driver then the pioneers; but I have not listened to either of them....

mike bisson 08-08-2006 08:56 PM

I think Ayreborn AV in White Rock has them on display -- have a listen and see for yourself


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