you know, i hate to stir the pot here more, but i agree with tim on this one, and i think ive said it before,just not so blatantly...im really sick of all these fly-by-night woofer/amp companys that someone tosses in their car, burps a decent number, and all of a sudden, its gods gift to the earth, for the next month until the next new flavour comes out. There is a reason that you see most people directly affiliated with the industry running the tried, tested & true brands.

Chris my installation abilities and employment have nothing to do with my opinion. Everyone else gets to come on here and say what ever they want at any time. Do you think that it is fair for you to single me out verses all the other people that are on here that work in the industry ? Do you hold me at a higher standard then everyone else ? I doubt that very much.

Sometimes a person just gets tired of some of the mindless dribble on this site and wants to speak out about it.

As for your double standard I was not calling the person buying the amp the putz, rather the person that buys it for the sake of buying something unique and then trys to start this almost cult like following for the product regardless wether it is good or bad. </font>[/QUOTE]I do have a double standard.. anyone affiliated with the industry, I treat them with more respect and at the same time i expect to hear more knowledgable comments from them (I'm not saying that any of your posts werent..)

Maybe I mis-read your post and took it out of context, if so I appologize.

But I definatly agree with your comment about a person calling it the best just because its different and not caring about quality.

Agreed about the fly-by-night companies, but who's to say who this is going to happen to? But if a product does well and people use them then whats the problem? The problem with the tried, tested & true brands.. if people didn't experiment and try new things then everyone would be hitting the same numbers in the same class for spl, and sq cars would sound all the same.. its experimenting and trying new things that get you places in this industry ;)

Mrs. Audio, for your information, I never once trashed the product nor did I claim that it was inferior to anything my company sells.

Further more my statement simply implied that I did not care where the name came from and I was pointing out that there are way to many no name products and brands that seem to be the hotest thing one moment on this message board and then the next moment it is crap and something else has become the next best thing. Having an unique brand name product is not a bad thing, it is just pathetic how something rises and falls so quick on here. </font>[/QUOTE]oh ok.. I think maybe your post was worded wrong or I was reading it wrong cuz originally it sounded to me like you were basically calling any non big name product crap..

Drop 6-8 woofers one at a time in a trunk. id say 80% of most car audio enthusiest couldnt pick their woofer from the bunch.

The nuts and bolts of what I am getting at is there is to much no name product that IS crap that gets all this hype because a few people who may or may not have a clue think it is the next big thing.

There are way to many people who are clueless on here and end up with a band of clueless minons....... :(

Sometimes it is funny, other times it's just downright pathetic..........

The nuts and bolts of what I am getting at is there is to much no name product that IS crap that gets all this hype because a few people who may or may not have a clue think it is the next big thing.

There are way to many people who are clueless on here and end up with a band of clueless minons....... :(

Sometimes it is funny, other times it's just downright pathetic.......... </font>[/QUOTE]Hmmm... I have never really noticed that on CCA but I do understand your point because I have seen that type of crap on other sites like Termpro and SoundDomain. I guess I didn't fully understand your post because I also thought you were just calling the people on this forum a bunch of idiots and only big name products are worthwhile. I don't think it is a bad thing that people are trying new products, it would get pretty boring if everyone used the same crap in their cars.