two 10's or one 12?
 

Hey guys, new here to the forums. I was wondering if you guys could help me. I have a two infinity 1050w reference series subs in a sealed box, but my cousin also gave me one of his alpine type R swr-1241D subs not in a box. They would be powered by a infinity 611a red series amp. I would prefer put the 12 in as it would save me a bunch of space, but I don't want to shell out for a box if the 2 10's would be better. What do you guys think?

Get ahold of Trevor at Pound that Sound he is in BC as well and does some awesome work. I would say keep the 12 and try to sell the 10s. With the right box it will be just as loud and you will have a little extra space. :smilie_da I would take Alpine over Infinity anyday personally.
Nick

ya I've seen his site, impressive stuff

personally I would go with two 10" in a good ported enclosure over a single 12"

^^X2. What he said.

Thing is that I don't want a ton of SPL because its in the same cab as I am so I want to stick to sealed boxes, so would the one 12 provide similar SPL and SQ to the 2 sealed 10's?

I think two 10's will provide more snap/SQ than a single 12. I've always thought 12-15 subs were designed/meant for deeper bass, 10's always provided a good median in between.

Tim

2 sealed infinity reference 10's > 1 Alpine type-R 12. Heard a lot of both and I've always prefered Infinities sound.

RMS Power at 4 Ohms: 456 W x 1
RMS Power at 2 Ohms: 657 W x 1

250 RMS for the 10's and 500 for the 12. I'd give the 10's 328w @ 1 ohm if you can. A little more cone area & power. Over powering probably won't make a huge difference in a small sealed box, just watch the gains. Infinity recommends .75 cf3 for sealed.

If you want better lows than try a $200 Eclipse SW8200 (12) in 1.5 cubes @ 1ohm, they're 670W RMS so that amp is a nice match.

12's are the way to go. Do up the Alpine!

hehe, I was hoping for more of a clear cut answer. I guess I'll look for a box I can borrow to test out the 12" and compare it to the 10's. When I do go to hook up 12" how should I do it? Cause I hear all this talk about running it in series or parallel on other threads. Should I run a pos and neg to both voice coils or just one set of pos and neg and link the other terminals together?

would putting that much more power to the 12" alpine blow the sub?

running one 12" type r now , feeding it 500-600 rms and more then that is too much

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hits hard, but it needs a big box, 2 cubes right now

I've read that it recommends .85 to 1 cube, the point was to save space

Well I've heard em in small boxs and its night and day. Type r needs a big box. Do a search and u will see

Sealed ya might be able to get away with it

All this audio electrical stuff just confusing the hell outta me. should I just sell the type R and go for the eclipse? is the eclipse a better sub?

I alwya vote use the better sub. in your specific application I'd build a custom enclosure for the type R. the Infinity Reference series subs are really boomy and colored.

Eclipse doesn't recommend ported for the SW series but I've used the 12 in 2.2 cubes and it was great on 750W RMS. It's better sealed, the low end extention is insane using 2 12's in 2.5 cubes. They're a little boomy because of it. 1.5 cf3 = 35hz, 1.75 cf3 = 30hz, from Eclipse. The Infinities are boomy and colored and still sound better than a Type-R. Get the Eclipse.

i dont think the infinitys sound better then the alpines, but what do i know

cant vouch for the eclipse as i have no experience with em

So I guess the next question would be if the eclipse sw8200 would supply the same SQ and SPL as the two 10's without needing as big a box because I like the sound I get from the two 10's right now.

On another note how much would I be able to sell the alpine swr-1241D for?

I would be going with the type r, but that is my preference between the 2. If you want to keep the 10s do that, because you most likely will have to have a well built box for it to perform to your liking, so if you like how the 10s sound now, stick with em. As for selling the type r, if its MINT cosmetically and mechanically, you could sell it for 120-150. More if you find someone who really wants it.

^^^^^^^x2

There are plenty of subs out there that will give you what you want (small box, nice sound). I would suggest going to local shops to hear them for yourself. Some shops will let you put their sub in your car for a quick demo.

Is the Alpine the previous model Type r, 300 watts, without the multi roll surround? If so, then the 2 Infinity's will be louder, and will handle higher output easier than the single Alpine. As far as SQ, both are good sounding subs, in general most decent brand name subs sound good within their limits. Obviously there are preferences from person to person, but until you listen to them there's no way to tell which one you'll like better.

Ya its the one that supposedly takes 300 watt RMS from what i read on crutchfield

I was told by Thumperr/SSA peoples that the Dcon 12 gets lower & louder than the Eclipse and it's only $125 + shipping so nevermind the Eclipse, use the Dcon at 4 ohms and be easy on the gains. No re-cones for the Eclipse anymore.

Other option is to sell the 2 infinitys and the type r and get a sub that is rated for 600+ watts @ 2ohms (dual 4ohm coils). Lots of suggestions have already been put forth, but this would save space, allow optimal use of the amp, and you'll end up with a new, louder, possibly better sounding sub system.

are you talking about this sub? SSA Shop - SSA Dcon 12D4 subwoofer300rms in the single 4 ohm voice coil option? I could live with a small ported box

now thats an idea, any idea's for subs? I'd prefer to keep it cheaper so that i'd break if I sold the current subs but I wouldnt be afraid to throw down a bit more for a good sub

How about these? Sundown Audio SA-12 600 watt sub woofer SSA Shop - Incriminator Audio 12" Lethal Injection I've hear some good things about sundown audio but haven't heard anything about incriminator

Most if not all of the companies mentioned have good products from what I've heard...unfortunately, there are so many now that it's impossible to try them all. I will say that Sundown's owner seems to be a very straight up guy, and I would have no problems buying their products. You may also want to look into Digital Designs, Fi audio, Kaption audio's spl series (I think there are still 2 for sale in the for sale section at an unreal price..but it's in ontario), Alpine new type R, RE audio, and memphis audio to name a few more.