U.S. ordering..UPS delivered 5 mins ago..breakdown.
 

I know there is a thread somewhere about this, but since UPS hit my door 5 minutes ago I thought I'd lay it out.

ORDER: $150.00 U.S. or about $190.00 Canuck Bucks including money order. Would have been cheaper if I had of used my credit card.

TAX-DUTY-BROKERAGE FEE $68.96 total. Brokerage fee was $39.00, the rest was tax & duty.

Shipping was free because I hit a Christmas special.

UPS guy takes credit card at door, or cash, check, everything except debit.

So there you have it, a $150.00 U.S. item translates into about $260.00 Canadian by the time it hits your door, factoring in exchange rate, etc.

John

There is no additional charges, brokerage or duty is the item is less than $100, it would have been cheaper to have them understate the value and been insured for 100 instead or paying $70 to insure that extra $50

So under $100.00 no brokerage fee or duties?

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

I have purchased a 2x holsters a few months ago at $30CDN each, and needless to say, by the time they got to my door I was out $140CDN. So I don't know what happened in my case but I have always paid brokerage even under $100.

Somebody mentioned that if the product was "Made in the USA" there's a fee that is negated. I'm sure sure which one, or how accurate that statement it.

my bad, ups charges "brokerage fees" starting at $20 (Item value), maybe it's USPS I'm thinking of?

HERE's a link to UPS's brokerage charges....avoid these clowns at all cost

keep in mind the rates you see posted do not include Canadian taxes (cannot be avoided) or duty charges.

It is accurate as far as I am aware. I will be testing my comment shortly with a made in USA product.

It has to do with free trade and "free movement" of goods between participating countries.

The part I am unclear on is whether you still pay up front and get reimbursed, or whether its duty free from the get go.

just avoid UPS at all costs...

USPS doesn't **** u in the ass!

dont go ups usps

USPS is not as bad as UPS!! or FEdex... I got assraped a few times by these clowns...I almost refuse to order from the states now..Next time I will just use a US addy, go get it myself @ the other side and smuggle across(depending on how big of course)

I will not buy anything from the US unless it is shipped USPS. Never charge brokerage fees.

True, USPS never charges brokerage fees and if you go on the government website there are very few items that still carry duty fees these days. Also, depending on how close you live to US border, you can ship to there and just pick it up. There are many parcel services that charge nominal fees to hold your item for you.

I love laughing at people when they come into my shop and tell me how much they can get stuff from the states. I laugh even harder when they come in to get the product installed and have to admit I was right and then pay more to get it installed because they didn't buy it from me. Then I absolutely kill myself laughing when the product fails and they attempt to get warranty from the online scammer they bought it from, even though I totally warned them that you pretty much have no warranty when you buy something from the states.

Moral of the story???? Support your dealers, they can do so much more for you than just sell you the product.

^That defenetly holds true espeically for the noobs or people who don't want to or know how to install stuff themselves.

I will say that I think it's great that your buisness is willing to install stuff anyway for those kinds of people.

I love laughing at some of the high prices that shops around here have and at some of the crappy gear they have. It's hard to find certain brands of gear near where I live so I have no choice but to order online. And some of the companies do still provide good customer service even though you are buying across borders. I am all for supporting our local dealers. Half of my gear was ordered through a dealer on here. And, I did install half of my gear myself and the rest will be installed when the weather is warmer. This saved me even more money.

And I will say its great to know that some dealers will charge more if you don't buy from them.

It is for this reason that I never have anything shipped across the border.... ;)

As for products made in the USA, and for those who want to test the NAFTA agreement, I would highly suggest you request documentation from whoever you buy it from to complete a country of origin form and to ship it with the product - despite whether or not the box and/or the item itself has its "Made in USA" labels and stickers.

I will not order anything that is shipped UPS, since ya just like what happened do you ya the Shipping rate isnt bad but 80% of the time you get rapped with Brokerage fees

Ok fellas here's the rule: Anything manufactured in United States, Canada and Mexico and is being shipped from Canada, Mexico or United States to Canada Mexico or United States is not susceptible to duties according to the NAFTA. Ask the person that you're ordering it from to provide a NAFTA agreement or the customs code. Below is an example of a NAFTA code. Trust me when I tell you that this information is correct. I am a certified Customs Specialist from when I worked with Fedex Trade Networks.

9503.00.90.95 Toys – Handicraft & Hobbycraft Kits

Good Luck and Happy ordering.:smokin:

Yeah, like charge me Saskatchewan PST when I lived in Alberta, take 6 months to replace a driver broken in shipping and not give me a reciept.:smilie_da

Pretty sketchy.

shipping product from the US sucks....

I get rapped once a week with the exchange and brokerage fee's:ohwell:

is anything still made in US or Canada? I know Mexico makes stuff.

UPS is a joke.... USPS I have never ahd a prolem with and there shipping times are reasonable!

Try to use the post office for shipping. It's the same for us on the US side.


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HEre is what one needs for shipping wih UPS
UPS: Rates for Customs Clearance into Canada

Bottom line, if you do it and it be more advantagous then USPS then the declared value needs to be below 40$ canadian, you need to call as soon as you get the tracking number and give your CC to not paye the bond fee. After that all you pay is taxes on the item and 7$ of Preparation Charges.

The advantage is it's faster, over all USPS is less hassle.

General rule of thumb is everyone at the border is going to try to rape you one way or the other. You think shipping to Canada is bad? Try Mexico...on average the shipping rate is 3x what the product costs if you call up some online retailer.

simply put: "free trade" is a joke.

use USPS for the most hassle free experience. UPS, DHL and FedEX are faster, but you pay waaaaay too much money for their brokerage.

Oh yeah and for all the "support your local business" people that come in and cry about where I choose to spend my money, it's very simple.

You need to stay competitive in pricing...

If I can find the product I AM LOOKING FOR locally that's competitively priced I will ALWAYS buy local.

Just remember, I can ballpark math in my head very well...and if something from the US after duties and taxes (not the rip off UPS fees) is still overpriced (over $20+) you're not getting my money.

Many of the dealers here in Canada think they can charge whatever they feel like simply because they are the only ones selling the product. That's not cool....in my 'hood we call that taking advantage of someone.

BTW this is not directed at anyone in particular. I just get fed up with those who make it sound like shopping in the US is somehow "wrong"

Never use UPS when buying from the States. I bought some small parts for my H1 which came out to $50cad. Used the companies UPS account to save a bit and still got dinged another $68 for duty and taxes once the bill came in!!

If you are buying make sure they can ship by USPS with a tracking number.