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twistedsickness 10-15-2006 07:11 PM

What am I SQ or SPL?
 
I was thinking about it the other day,dont know what i really am anymore?

StickyFingaz 10-15-2006 07:48 PM

Whenever I think of SPL I think of dB competition. I think of big ugly boxes that get the job done at a choosen frequency. I think you would qualify as SQL, a mix of both, which is what I think most people really want when they say SPL. Just my $.02

Hardwrkr 10-15-2006 08:14 PM

Asking on an internet forum "What am I?" is a very loaded question. :smilie_au

twistedsickness 10-15-2006 08:28 PM

Dont worry i was thinking about that when i posted it...... already thought of it... Very Bold..

GrizZz 10-15-2006 08:38 PM

Don't worry, it's fun to SQooL all these SQ'ers and SPL'ers ;)

Welcome to the club! :smokin:

SweetnLow91SC 10-15-2006 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by twistedsickness
I was thinking about it the other day,dont know what i really am anymore?

Well....... maybe do a cupple of simple test wil reveal what its good at.

- see what db you obtain with a burp.

- put in a Iasca SQ disc and see how it.. stage, image, sound tonally and if it realistic or not, etc.

The one that does better is your answer...... ;)

JordyO 10-15-2006 09:42 PM

You're neither... don't have the proper setup/equipment to be competitive in either arena at a serious level.

So.... you're a ground pounder.... nothing wrong with that. :smilie_da

twistedsickness 10-15-2006 11:21 PM

if i wanted to be competitive what the hell do i have to do?????? i dont know what im missing List it!! ill buy it muahahhhahaa

JordyO 10-15-2006 11:59 PM

I'd say that before you buy anything else... you need to decide what it is you want to do.

Trying to do both will usually end up in not being successful with either...

(and before anyone says it... yes, I know Fukuda did it a long time ago, but things have changed since then!)

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 12:19 AM

i want all sounds just loud and clear not distorted

MR2NR 10-16-2006 12:43 AM

Then you need to basically throw out the game plan you have now and start from scratch. A good system is one that is matched together properly for a dedicated task. It is not one that is just thrown together (with what was it 30 pairs of 6.5" coax's?)for whatever the reason may be. You might have the best gear in the world, however, if it is poorly matched together for their abilities, it is completely worthless.

So far from our conversations that we have had and your posts here on the forum, you have been going 100% backwards and just now have realized it so it seems. You may now have spent a whole crapload of loot on all the wrong gear. Figure out the game plan for what you want. Then a proper system layout can be designed.

Will you keep your business in Canada and see the value that a good dealer here can offer?, well, that is up to you. So far your dealing out of the US seems to have gotten you not too far except for a nasty case of bad sound.

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 12:49 AM

No has made me a offer to keep me from Jumping all the time So what if your point of view i need to do?

MR2NR 10-16-2006 12:54 AM

You need to come up with a game plan. Otherwise, you lose every time. Lay out the goals for what you want. Good sound, obnoxiously loud, modifications to the vehicle etc. What you plan on doing, what you plan on having done. A cd based system or dvd based system. A budget is important. What level of service you expect from a dealer. Right now and from day 1 you have lacked a game plan, that is the very first thing you need to do if you want to be competitive.

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 01:03 AM

well i did say what i wanted.
what else do you need from me?

MR2NR 10-16-2006 01:13 AM

EGA 700.2 - start eliminating amplifiers, too many
EGA 680.4
PCA Class D 3500.1
Tarantula 960.4
Tarantula 6.5 x18speakers 120RMS - see you later, (18 pairs, WTF?)
Tarantula 6x9s speakers 150RMS - hit the road, bye bye
Tarantula T4 Subs. X2 900 RMS 1Ohm - can a proper box fit in your car for 4?
Van Gogh 6.5 Components 150RMS - might be able to be salvaged
SC40 Farad Capacitor - no need for this at all
170AMP Alternator (custom made). - a must have
140 sq Ft BrownBread. - good score and necessary
Alpine 9855 - will do the job, I prefer Eclipse

You need to get rid of a lot of the clutter in the system. Way too many speakers and too many amplifiers. Can a proper box fit into the trunk of your car limitations of what you have and how it will fit into the vehicle. Bigger does not mean better, more does not mean better. All that bottom end means that you must pay more attention to the front end. This is where good, really good speakers installed properly come into play.

Installation is what is going to make or break the system as it lays right now or whatever changes are made to it. Map out a new plan of attack on the vehicle.

Blaine Korte 10-16-2006 01:26 AM

Here's what I would recommend a customer like you...

2 pair of good 6.5 component in the front
1 pair of good 6.5 component in the back

Subs, depending on vehicle, music type, but 2x15s or 4x10 or something like that

amplify each channel, get a decent deck (looks like you have one)

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 01:37 AM

Ok let me clear up my gear....

EGA 700.2 dont know if im going to use it?
EGA 680.4 dont know if im going to use it?
PCA Class D 3500.1
Tarantula 960.4
Tarantula 6.5 x 18speakers 120RMS
So far i made a Fiberglass encloseure for my trunk lid for outside partys
and Kicks panels and soon to put 3 speakers on each door panel (Only 2 panels..)

Tarantula 6x9s speakers 150RMS Replaced stock
Tarantula T4 Subs. X2 900 RMS 1Ohm ok There only 2 subs not 4 "T4" is the model. Tuned at 28hz
Van Gogh 6.5 Components 150RMS
SC40 Farad Capacitor Looks Pretty and Nothing wrong going that big
170AMP Alternator (custom made).
140 sq Ft BrownBread. WORTH IT!!

Alpine 9855
replacing it to something differnet dont know what i was considering the Pioneer AVIC Z1 (But sold it) Kenwood DDX6019 with NAV
i havent found anything else that i want or consider on that matter

Chieftorius 10-16-2006 02:14 AM

how do you like the pca3500d?? ever had it blow up on you?

Newb 10-16-2006 03:57 AM

zomwtfg!!!!

18 pairs of seperates? Is this a demo vehicle?

But seriously:

Keep the cap/alternator/sounddeadening

Tarantula 960.4 to run front stage

One set, but if you must, 2 sets of components up front, please not 3-18, you make baby jesus cry.

6x9's in the rear, again only if you must.

PCA Class D 3500.1 to run the two Tarantula subs

If you have to have speakers in the trunk lid I would build a switching network so either the interior or trunk speakers will be on, not both.

So, ditch about 16 pairs of the mids, both the EGA amps, preferably the 6x9 and 2 more sets of mids, and see how that is.

Really, when it comes to drivers, less is more. I'm doing 9 drivers total in my car and I'd prefer to get that down to about 5 ideally. Really, 2 drivers would be the perfect solution, full range right and left.

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 10:35 AM

IM having a quick release or something along those lines. for the lid.

zzzzzzz 10-16-2006 11:31 AM

sq = install #1
think about your set up
then mat the car with deader
then start with a good #1 alt then #2a good battery #3 caps on the battery so you can not hit the + #4 0g wire with an fuse under 18" form the battery #5 0gto a block so you can get 4g out fuse with in 18" of the block 4g wire to amps then run your speaker wire to the speakers think and play with the speaker spot
your wires need to be fastend no more then 6" apart thew out the car

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 11:39 AM

Kinda freaky what you just said :P your not missing one thing i havent done.

loud'n'proud 10-16-2006 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by twistedsickness
i want all sounds just loud and clear not distorted

thats fine now ask yourself what do I really want compete in SQ or SPL you cand have a kick ass system that sound fantastic and still burp 150's ...
it could be a matter of changing your port lenght if you are using areo ports get an extra pair with longer pipe or make a sleeve for your sloted to change the tuning .have fun with it .

twistedsickness 10-16-2006 12:56 PM

my box is tuned at 28hz 3" port x2 for each sub.


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