whats the deal with cliff designs?
 

xs cargo has em for like 40 dollars for a set of componets and the same set sells on line for like 350,

i thought everything xs cargo has was garbage?

You'll get what you pay for.
Cliff Designs used to be a good company, but it's been a while...

Pretty much anything 'Brand Name' at XS Cargo is refurbished. Their fliers even say as much. As to the quality of refurbished equipment, I'll leave for others to decide and comment on.

S^G