Alpine type s tweeter vs type r tweeter
Hey all. I am having trouble with my system right now. I just put in some Type s 6.5 components and i am happy with how the woofer sounds and how loud they go but the tweeter sounds like crap at about 3/4 volume. My stock tweeters didn't sound like that. I don't get it. If I were to take them back and exchange for the type r would the tweeter be better? I am running them on 50 rms.
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Ditch the KTP-445 and install a real 4 channel, as it's not known for being the best sounding (especially up high) or cleanest amplifier solution even though it's marketed as a 'Baby-PDX'....
I actually prefer the sound of the Type-S tweeter over the Type-R......but your taste may be different. |
Originally Posted by Allan74
(Post 647940)
Ditch the KTP-445 and install a real 4 channel, as it's not known for being the best sounding (especially up high) or cleanest amplifier solution even though it's marketed as a 'Baby-PDX'....
I actually prefer the sound of the Type-S tweeter over the Type-R......but your taste may be different. |
How is your stock deck connected to your amp(s)? If you're using a typical LOC (without equalization to level the oem output) then there is good chance that's why you're getting the distortion at higher volume levels. Remember that your deck's output is being sent through an amplifier (built in to deck) that has built in eq/sound prcessing from the factory and also produces it's own distortion at higher output. When this distorted signal is then converted to low level rca signals the distortion is still there and will be amplified by whichever amp you use. Tweeters tend to be sensitive to this distortion and you can hear it easily. Some tweeters are more sensitive than others, and keep in mind that the oem system with their components were engineered with built in eq/processing to avoid distortion that may be audible. Once you start changing components the oem "system" is no longer in place and anything can happen. You may need a high end LOC (line out converter) like a JL clean sweep or similar to get the proper signal for your amps.
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In a fight I would say the S type would beat the R type due to its Brazilian Jujitsu, but do not underestimate the R types Kung Fu
something is distorting and your hearing it, figure out what is distorting and fix it (it could be the tweeters but I am betting it is upstream) |
Try your KTP-445 on it's other gain setting. Is gain level is too high. Possibly distorting, or possible head unit distortion? Was that volume level clear with factory speaks and tweeds? IMO alpine KTP works best in high pass applications
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Originally Posted by Denonite
(Post 647967)
How is your stock deck connected to your amp(s)? If you're using a typical LOC (without equalization to level the oem output) then there is good chance that's why you're getting the distortion at higher volume levels. Remember that your deck's output is being sent through an amplifier (built in to deck) that has built in eq/sound prcessing from the factory and also produces it's own distortion at higher output. When this distorted signal is then converted to low level rca signals the distortion is still there and will be amplified by whichever amp you use. Tweeters tend to be sensitive to this distortion and you can hear it easily. Some tweeters are more sensitive than others, and keep in mind that the oem system with their components were engineered with built in eq/processing to avoid distortion that may be audible. Once you start changing components the oem "system" is no longer in place and anything can happen. You may need a high end LOC (line out converter) like a JL clean sweep or similar to get the proper signal for your amps.
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Originally Posted by Mr.DatSubishi
(Post 648000)
Try your KTP-445 on it's other gain setting. Is gain level is too high. Possibly distorting, or possible head unit distortion? Was that volume level clear with factory speaks and tweeds? IMO alpine KTP works best in high pass applications
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I'm sure you'll let us know how it works tomorrow. Also let me know if the typeR Xover has tweeter attenuation and what options it gives you. That 445 is gonna be just enough power to make typeRs sing. You may find the highs in the rear a little overpowering from those Ss. The Rs have a smoother bottom end though. Like a baybay
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Originally Posted by Mr.DatSubishi
(Post 648012)
I'm sure you'll let us know how it works tomorrow. Also let me know if the typeR Xover has tweeter attenuation and what options it gives you. That 445 is gonna be just enough power to make typeRs sing. You may find the highs in the rear a little overpowering from those Ss. The Rs have a smoother bottom end though. Like a baybay
Just pop off the x-over cover and the settings are right there. The factory setting is 0 db. It has 6 options going below 0 db. I think this is an amazing feature especially in my case b/c I don't have much for an eq. I can set it lower if I feel the tweet is too harsh or gets distorted at high volume ( like the type s ) without it affecting the midrange speaker. I have a feeling it will sound best at -3 db. I would rather it be a dial but this is good enough. Just switch over the connector. http://s1.postimage.org/ko2cjk6ki/IMG_1605.jpg |
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