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audioconcepts 04-02-2005 07:59 PM

Reading an old book and there was a topic on where to put an Epicenter ( epicenter and bass cube are basically the same) in the signal chain. The writer had it just before his subwoofer amp and kept blowing fuses. The magazine wrote back telling him to put it right after the head unit as this would prevent his fuse blowing problem but would also make the sound alot cleaner all arround. Anyone have any input on this idea?

Westec 04-02-2005 08:57 PM

the epicenter and a bass cube are VERY different. its like apples to oranges.

Westec 04-02-2005 09:01 PM

Let me explain...

Epicenter adds or enhances everthing below 100hz

Bass Cube: if set a tracking mode, the subsonic filter tracks the the frenquency knob in one octive steps. Basically the boosting moves with the knob up and down. If set to fixed the subsonic filter is set in one place, usually one octive less than the port tuning frenquency. And the boosting in both cases is one at one frenquency...

Paul Niwranski 04-02-2005 10:07 PM

If you install an Epicenter it should be before an active crossover. It should see full range music.

Hardwrkr 04-02-2005 10:23 PM

I suggest reading the tech notes on the Epicenter. As Westec stated they are two different devices.
http://www.audiocontrol.com/PDF/Owne...nter_CS_OM.pdf
They will state why as Dukk suggested the unit should be in front of the crossovers.

[ April 02, 2005, 11:24 PM: Message edited by: Hardwrkr ]

defro13 04-03-2005 07:48 AM

the epicenter uses harmonics to add lo frequncies depending on the full range signal that it gets, if it see's a 100hz signal it will add a knob controlled amount amout signal at the lower harmonic, 50 hz, 90@45hz,80@40hz and down the line like that, all that ending with a subsonic filter that if i remember right was factory at 33hz@18db/oct, but i might be wrong there

the bass cube is a 1 parametric eq with subsonic

Dereck Waller 04-03-2005 11:03 AM

I don't know about the version of epicenter that had the gain controls, but the original without gain controls didn't have a subsinic filter. I had a Phantom Bass, from KLW/Carver, it was similar to the Epicenter, but better [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

defro13 04-03-2005 02:07 PM

i wasnt to sure if it did, but i thought so, if it didnt, if there ever was an ac piece that needed a subsonic filter, it was the epicenter, the klw phantom was a cool piece, i just might happen to have one of those in my stash of retro gear, maybe a bass cube too :D

BumpinTalon 04-03-2005 07:40 PM

...so what does an epicenter do exactly?? adds harmonics? so wouldn't that make the music sound weird?

audioconcepts 04-03-2005 09:50 PM

O.K. then, so where should the Bass Cube I have be installed? Thanks for pointing out the difference between the two units.


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