I've had a boner for 'em for the last couple of months since hearing a set of Grand Utopia's. Anyone heard them yet or know where and if they're available?

Thanks,

Doug

They are currently in stock with the Distributor - Audio To Go in Miss should be able to help you out - 905-238-8182.

Yes...... I have heard them at AXIS. I have also heard the Be Alto at Commercial Electronics. [img]smile.gif[/img]

yes i have had a set of no 7 three ways with the crossblock for about 6 months now
without doubt the best components ive heard
the beryllium tweeter is awesome and extends way beyond what both your hearing and other tweeters are capable of
ive also heard the two way no 6 set which is equally as good when set up right

there not cheap in england with a no 7 kit with crossblock running at around £2900
im also hoping to be trying the audison thesis amps very soon just to see if there all there cracked up to be all the people i know which have heard them have really liked them but think the looks are unusual

Awesome...thanks for the info.

doug

Good stuff. I'll look 'em up and head over late in the week for a look see.

BTW, do you happen to know if the crossblocks are bi-ampable?

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

Doug

[ August 23, 2005, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: droy ]

...so what'd you think?

Doug

I'll be building a demo car to compete with the Focal demo car (southern china) in the very near future. I'll keep you posted on my listening comparisons. Looks interesting.

Hey Kevin
Guess who SweetnLow91SC is..... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Please check your PM.

[ August 23, 2005, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]

BTW, do you happen to know if the crossblocks are bi-ampable?

Yes, they are Bi-ampable or bi-wireable - all of the cross blocks are.

i was at audio to go a couple of weeks back and whats his face took me back for a listen. i`m not sure if he played the ones your talking about he played a sub and components in his focal demo room. they sounded very presise and bright, but audio to go means "your money to go" as well.

Well..... The Focal Be seems very neutral sounding, It is very smooth sounding from octave to octave. there's no glare or harshness in the top-end, also I find the bass detail/speed on the 6" woofer very linear,dynamic and has excellent extension. ( credit to AXIS's set up ) Question: But does it sound spooky real?? well.... Nope! It sounds like a play-back still with good electronics. It presented everything smaller then life and has limited dynamics from lower mid & up.(could be x-over set up) Also I was finding dullness in producing metal attacks was lacking. But overall it has excellent settling time as it seems..... no ringing, at least not audible. very musical....... I would definately like to hear it with the TRU all tube amp tho! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ August 23, 2005, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]

Hey, Sweetnlow91sc. Glad to see you're posting again. I was just talking with Clarence last week at his Richmond shop. He listened to my system and suggested me go to the Revscene show this coming Sunday. My system looks like crap, but has potential in SQ. Maybe I can get you to help me out with tuning the thing. As of last month, I am no longer in denial -- my hearing has deteriorated so much over the years. I still enjoy listening, but.......

Damn old age........ youth is truly wasted on the young.

Anyway, maybe meet up at Timmy's one day this week? If not, no big deal, I can always shoot for Timmy's show in late September.

Sorry for the hijack

Thanks. That's good news.

Doug

Paul,(what'e his face), at Audio to Go has the 165KP on his demo board. They do sound nice but the BE's are much better. After listening to the BE's driven by the Thesis at Axis, I switched to the K2P's and I was shocked. There is so much music that us poor folks don't ever hear on our budget restricted systems. I am not sure if the experience was a pleasure or poison. I want a pair of BE's real bad now!

you are the focal and audison rep for ontario of course you're gonna say something like this. when were you in b.c. to listen to axis' demo if you work in ontario?

I believe the Thesis have large contibution to the details in the sound. and listening through a good pair of speaker (Focal Be) is like looking through a clear lens upstream to the music... (Spr> Thesis> Source). Also I was finding the K2P was actually sounded coloured in the mid when compared to the Be.

Unfortnately the price on these equipment are not really practical for most music lovers..... But these are reference level stuff... [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ August 24, 2005, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]

Okay so all the gushy reviews on the sound of the speakers and amp.......but did anybody consider if the speaker, power or RCA cabling may be coloring the sound too......or the source....or the sources' d/a converters...or...

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Was this review of the Thesis in direct comparison to something else on the board or just listening to the one board itself with only the single source, amp and drivers on it?

Absolutely..... The head unit is a Nakamichi CD-700II. It has the 24 bit Dual BurrBrown DACs on board

Power Cables are all by Audison tin/copper type with very flexible insulation.

RCA/Speaker wires are also from Audison.

There's also a switcher in line that could cause sonic degradetion. (RCA/Spr)

When I do evaluations on sound boards, I usually look for potentials of the equipments performance. I have requested to hear the TRU hybrid vs Thesis in the set-up (to eliminate a variable). but they wouldn't do it... atleast not during business hours.(appointments only)

[ August 24, 2005, 11:53 AM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]

you are the focal and audison rep for ontario of course you're gonna say something like this. when were you in b.c. to listen to axis' demo if you work in ontario? </font>[/QUOTE]I was out to see Chris' new shop the end of July. I listened to the Thesis and BE's at Audiolines as well. The BE's made a pair of $2500 speakers from another company sound like average speakers . I have heard better from home speakers like the Grand Utopias and Wilson Watts Grand Slams driven by equally rediculous amplifiers, (Top of the line Krells...)
Now if I am to promote products that I represent here, you should have heard the soon to be released Hertz Mille mid tweets I listened to. sorry couldn't resist.

I heard the Be's in a demo car in Vegas in January. Tonally they were excellent - but the car was using a stock head unit, so the imaging was shabby at best.

Dynamics and frequency response were excellent - I wish I could hear them in a 'perfect' setup with 9990 or 9255!

Where abouts was the tweeter installed in that car? (A-piller, doors, kicks?)

if I recall correctly, the A-pillars and the mids in the corners of the dash...