Ok I have been looking around for a while now and I have come up with 2 amps that are in my pricerange that are forsale but I dont know what amp is best (overall) Here they are

1) Clarion APX401.4 - $170
(http://www.clarion-eu.com/uk/iPod_co...6918810.4.html)

2) MTX Thunder 304 - ~ $160
(http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/archive/thunder304.cfm)

What do you guys is the best for the $$$? Im just using the amp to run my main car speakers. I just dont know what amp is better overall

Thanks!

[ April 14, 2005, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: Kwalsh24 ]

I used to own one of the older MTX Thunder 4 channel amps. It was awesome, sounded good, made good power, and never had any problems with it. I wouldn't hesitate to use another MTX amp, or reccomend it.
That would be my choice.

The Clarion APX amps were designed by Robert Zeff - he did Zapco, and currently does Arc Audio amongst others. I have the previous years model (same circuit board) installed on my test bench, and I really like it.

MTX makes an excellent amp as well

The MTX is 4 x 37.5W and the Clarion is 4 x 50W - I'd go for the extra power...

I have used the APX401.2 and also the Thunder 302, 250D, etc. I like both of them, I would guess that the MTX does closer to 60-70 x 4, as that 37.5 watt figure is at 12.5 volts, and MTX like to underrate. Either will be a good choice, I would imagine.

I am biased so I wont comment. That MTX amp was rated at 12.5V so the 37.5 watts isnt a fair comparison to the Clarion. Clarion rated power is at 14.4 Volts. So in this case MTX has more power. MTX is always under rated as well.

Thinking about it, Kyle is right, I should have remembered that MTX under-rates their amps... Totally my bad...

Both are solid amps, both likely make roughly 50W per channel at 4 Ohms.

MY MXA6004 is CEA rated at 75X4, the birth sheet says 723 watts rms all channels at 2 ohms. So at 4 ohms that's approximately 90 watts a channel which is about 20% more than spec.

both are good brands that I've owned over the years with no problems and i too would not hesitate to buy either if they suited my needs. I supose cosmetics and size etc... would probably be the deciding factor if the price and power were equivalent.

I can vouch for that amp...

Originally I was going to use the MXA6004 in combination with another sub amp, but I may not have to... I can't believe how well it drives my B15; I was totally floored. This is in a sealed box, BTW.

MTX doesnt underate all there amps, and heavily underates very few of them. I own a Thunder 225 H.O. and a pair Thunder 275's and to my knowledge those amps along with the rest of their "Thunder" series counterparts were the last of my MTX's line of heavily underated "cheater amps".

[ April 18, 2005, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Thrill_House ]

MTX doesnt underate all there amps, and heavily underates very few of them. I own a Thunder 225 H.O. and a pair Thunder 275's and to my knowledge those amps along with the rest of their "Thunder" series counterparts were the last of my MTX's line of heavily underated "cheater amps". </font>[/QUOTE]No they still underrate most of their amps.

I don't think the 225HO was so much heavily underrated as just able to play a lot lower than stated.

Dude that amp was only rated for like 25watts rms into 4 ohm stereo, in 1 ohm mono that amp pushes clost to around 700watts rms.

Ya but it didn't do much more than 25 watts into 4 ohm stereo, maybe 35 watts. You are confusing the old "cheater" amps with under rated. Those are two different things, any amp can be under or over rated, while back in the day a cheater amp was something that was stable to less than an ohm.