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I'm looking for a raw midrange to go with a Vifa D26NC05 for my new build. I'm going all active up front and was looking for a 6.5" woofer to mount in the door for short money. Does anyone have a woofer to suggest that would work well from solen or madisound that is stiff enough for IB configuration (it's going to be in the door) and 4 ohms impedence- my front stage amp only puts out 50x4 @ 4ohms, which is why I can't do any eight. What t/s parameters does one look at to determine if it's suitable for IB again? it's been a while. Thanks!!

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I guess I'm looking for a higher qts driver. what is considered high enough? is .4 to .6 good enough? IIRC, drivers ideal for the IB application at above .7 As for the impedance, I know speakers aren't resistors, but I'm working with a Zapco DC360.4 for the fronts. (50x4 @ 4 ohms). At this point I have 2 thoughts: f- it and just buy some raw drivers designed for automotive applications and I should have bought a bigger amp for the front.

fozzz

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Look into Hybrid Audio speakers. They are all specifically designed for IB use.

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I spent decent amount of time yesterday looking for a woofer, especially on diymobileaudio. There were a couple of raw drivers from Madisound and Solen that would work for IB, but were 8 ohms. And then I thought about how one of the reason car drivers are car drivers is because of mounting depth; I'm not cutting or modifying the door to fit a speaker. I'm dropping that idea. I wanted to spend the least amount of money possible and put more money on amps and processing. Last time I bought a set of speakers was a set of components MB Quart 6.5" Q series. I'm not spending that kind of money and i'm going fully active this time around.

So I'm looking at individual car midrange/woofers now. I'm putting the HAT L6 on my list.

Dukk

generally you will be rewarded with better sound if you spend more on speakers and less on electronics.

df.dima

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i don't understand why limiting yourself to 4 ohm only and that amp. i'd buy a bigger amp and open up a whole range of 8ohm drivers to choose from. and you won't find too many 4ohm raw drivers anyway.

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I'm connecting it to a honda oem head that has balanced outs and want to keep the relatively system simple. I felt the zapco dc stuff suit my needs best. It's just going to be a mid and tweeter up front and a 12" single sub.

Vifa is an oem manufacturer. The LPG (were used in the old diamond components someone correct me if i am wrong) are cheap too as well as some of the Seas tweeters around $35 per tweeter and deliver decent results from what i've read on the diy forum. I'd like to try them out. woofers etc has some morel made pg ti mids for $160 a pair. That's a nice front stage for less than $250. And since I'm going all active I don't want to pay for a passive crossover I won't use. I'm working on a limited budget and would rather spend that money for deadening. I wouldn't want to spend more than $500 in total though for a pair of car tweeter and woofers though. There's a point where I see a diminishing return.

I'm thinking of a bigger amp now regardless. Even at 4 ohms i don't think the 50 watts will be enough for the mid when the sub amp is a dc500.1. You're right, a bigger amp or amps will give me more flexibility with what i use down the road and will give me the ability to give them the extra power that can handle. Let me get the measuring tape out and see what fits. I really don't want to spend more money on this system than I need to, but I'd rather install the amps once.

(sigh) I was just going to put just do simple 4 channel pdx under the seat, component set and a sub....

df.dima

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for a while I ran seas ca18 off an amp that's rated 40w/ch, but may be doing more like 50-60. it wasn't bad. i'd just get whatever speaker looks best to you, if you're thinking of a bigger amp.

Denonite

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"(sigh) I was just going to put just do simple 4 channel pdx under the seat, component set and a sub...."

isn't that how we all got here?

Dukk

8ohm vs. 4ohm isn't a big deal anyway. Theoretically it's 3db which is barely noticable and reality is an 8ohm driver is usually a little more sensitive than an identical 4ohm version so the net result is almost inconsiderable.

I had an issue with the phrase 'least amount possible'. There's lots of $20/pair tweeters out there and they sound like it too. Once you are up at $40+ each for an LPG or Vifa or similar, in my opinion at least, you are buying a decent tweeter and probably have to spend 4-5times that much to get a huge improvement. Dropping $250-300 on raw drivers from Solen or Madisound should get you a great comp set.