speaker grills
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Originally posted by DWVW:
I think grilles have a definate impact in the sound, nothing can be 100% acoustically transparent. That said the human mind is amazing in it's ability to overcome yet at the same time be tricked quite easily.
I think grilles have a definate impact in the sound, nothing can be 100% acoustically transparent. That said the human mind is amazing in it's ability to overcome yet at the same time be tricked quite easily.
Most cloth grill cause a reflection and it cause some of the sound fires back onto the speaker it self......But is it audible?? Well..... depends on how high res your your system is set up without the grill. It usually takes away the details.... making different speakers sounding about the same. Some systems actually sounds better with the grill on... so its depends on how its setup.
Some high-end home speaker don't even give you speaker grills... specially at the price they're asking for. like the early JM-Labs Utopias... the thing is why go high res if you're going to put a cloth in front of it.
BTW: It is also measurable..... Wilson Audio a few years back came out with a speaker call the MAXX, and it came with speaker cloth grills. and there were a lot of complaint on how much it degraded the performance of the speaker ($80.000 spr) then Stereophile did the measurements and the difference did show. then Wilson Audio offered the option of their original grill.. as used in the Grand Slam & Watt puppy 5,6 & 7.
[ April 09, 2005, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]
Originally posted by Mizzarty:
I agree with THE fat whacker, even tweaking a system, I always try to take my eyes out of the equation, as funny as it sounds to some, they can trick you and give you a skewed perception of what you're actually hearing and where it's coming from
I agree with THE fat whacker, even tweaking a system, I always try to take my eyes out of the equation, as funny as it sounds to some, they can trick you and give you a skewed perception of what you're actually hearing and where it's coming from
well seeing that it's a car(motorized vehicle) and that you will have to drive it with your eyes open. Would it not be better to tune it with your eyes open?
Why not hire visually impaired judges for events?
Would a visually impaired audiophile make a better judge? I understand that their other senses( hearing) are more sensitive and highly accurate to compensate for the lack of sight.
Why not hire visually impaired judges for events?
Would a visually impaired audiophile make a better judge? I understand that their other senses( hearing) are more sensitive and highly accurate to compensate for the lack of sight.
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Absolutely!! But how is He or She going to be able to put down the scores & comments? 
From experience from judging(10yr+)... I usually just look straight ahead and try not to look at where the speakers are. and if I could hear the sound coming from the speakers. I close my eyes and listen to whats really on the soundstage... to see if my eyes are interfering with my ears.
[ April 09, 2005, 09:04 PM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]
From experience from judging(10yr+)... I usually just look straight ahead and try not to look at where the speakers are. and if I could hear the sound coming from the speakers. I close my eyes and listen to whats really on the soundstage... to see if my eyes are interfering with my ears.
[ April 09, 2005, 09:04 PM: Message edited by: SweetnLow91SC ]
Yankee
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A lot of cars have non-functioning drivers too (failed system upgrades/ factory system not removed etc.) so assuming they are on or of could be an error one a judge should not make. Car acoustics often makes it difficult to localize the drivers.
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As a competitor and a judge, I always listen to a system with my eyes closed. No distractions. But I absolutly believe that people will automatically place judgement on how somthing "will" sound when they see the location speakers.
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