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Ettore Casagrande Jr. 06-01-2005 08:16 AM

Again, assuming identical gauge. Even with differing gauges, it just amounts to attenuation primarily. This really explains well what skin effect actually is, which is resistance variance based on frequency.

I would like to forward people to this page:

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/...ect/page1.html

Since there appears to be a general concensues amongst the squeakies that wire sounds can be realized.

I assume there are already posts regarding this topic but here it is again. I think this one will work out better because the very first post will discount all of the arguments all at once.

I will come back with some frequency response calculations if this isn't enough.

[ June 01, 2005, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: Ettore Casagrande Jr. ]

loudtdi 06-01-2005 08:29 AM

Ettore,

Does a 14 AWG stranded wire sound the same as a 14 AWG litz wire and does that sound the same as a 14 AWG solid core wire?


Does capacitance & inductance of a cable effect the sound? How could it not.

defro13 06-01-2005 08:37 AM

i agree that not all wire is created equal. the only problem i have with the article is all the assuming, probobly's and maybes, and could haves. no real listening tests were conducted to dispute or enforce any theoretical findings. interesting read though

Dereck Waller 06-01-2005 11:35 AM

ABX listening tests do not help the case of the 'there's a difference' crowd.

loudtdi 06-01-2005 11:46 AM

I would assume there are two crowds....

Those that believe 'there's a difference'

and those that believe 'they can hear the differance'

SUX 2BU 06-01-2005 11:51 AM

^ Three crowds: those listed above and the "there's no difference."

M.C. Ryan 06-01-2005 12:23 PM

I think saying wire is wire is like going out and saying a speaker is a speaker... speakers all reproduce sound, so they're the same.... right? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

SUX 2BU 06-01-2005 12:31 PM

Will Quaker State 5w30 conventional motor oil make your car faster than Valvoline 5w30 conventional motor oil?

Oh what the heck, lets compare it to 5w30 Mobil1 motor oil. I once saw an article comparing dino to synthetic on a 500 hp V8. 5 hp difference. Too bad the error of the dyno was in that 1% too. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

[ June 01, 2005, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: SUX 2BU ]

loudtdi 06-01-2005 02:31 PM

I know in my 04 TDI I have to use special oil....No warranty if the engine blows using oil other than the specified oil

Brandon 06-01-2005 02:47 PM

^So by looking at the oil after the engine is blown they can tell if it's the specific oil or not? Gimme a break....or do they do forensic tests on the oil to make certain what type of oil it is? Because unless they do that, by looking at the oil, you cannot tell a difference between synthetic and regular, after it's been run through a motor it's dark in colour, how can one possibly tell between 2 oils after they've been run through an engine?


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