Beginner - Help Needed, Have A Sub Need An Amp
 

I'm sure you guys have seen your share of threads from newbies ... well, here's one more ...

I recently purchased this ...
http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/pro....05DCVR122.jpg
(Very happy with myself, might I say) ...

Kicker Dual 12" Subwoofer/Enclosure Package (DCVR12)
KKR 05DCVR122
• Two 12" CompVR® subwoofers
• 1200 watts peak power • 25-500Hz frequency response
• Ported enclosure



I'm "A Beginner" as beginners get. I'm looking to get a thump in my car, I don't even care if I don't hear vocals anymore, lets just hear the bass ... PLEASE.
Anyways, I'm assuming I need an amp for this ... along the lines, someone told me I'd need a "D-Class Amp" ...

Honestly, I'm going to tutor myself through a professional and online, but any help is welcome.
Do I only need an amp and I should be fine? What kind of amp?
What do you guys think of the Kickers (Honestly, I don't care ... I own it now, oh well :P)

REALLY appreciated ... I'm just a young guy willing to learn. Dreamed of loud sound my whole life growing up ... now, I'm just living A LITTLE bit of it.

Thanx.

I'm not farmiliar with that enclosure, but hell, it looks like I can put my head in it :dunno: or is it just a cosmetic cover with a regularly sized port?

regards, Mark

I'm just noticing that now. Mine is not that big (nor have I seen it like that) so I don't know where that's coming from.
Lower-middle of the side, goes deep inside.

I don't even have the system hooked up yet ... you can imagine how anxious I am :p

I know that feeling all too well. Everytime I get a new toy, and for various reasons, have to wait a bit to install / play around with it.

It's rough ;)

Mark

i have a friend who bought that setup in 10's, and yes teh ports are that big :S it's crazy huge..he is running his on...i belive 600 watts ish, and it's pretty loud. now that is in a civic hatchback..so depending on your application they are good subs. kicker always seems to do well.

I'm sure it sounds good... I was just surprised at how big the ports were, or looked in the pic.

Mark

I have a pair of CVR's and I couldn't be happier. Had them for a couple of years now. Great quality for the money (Depending on what you paid). And they sound very loud for just a modest setup.

I'm surprized no one recommened an amp or even tried to answer the original question. You'd have to check how the 2 subs are wired inside the box, or maybe the manual has the options listed. 2 DVC subs at 2 ohms, each sub should have the coils in series, then paralell the 2 subs together and your back to a 2 ohm total load.
You need an amp for 600w rms @ 2ohm. Mono block or d class. A little more power won't hurt if you like loud. I don't think make is important as long as you buy quality. don't know a thing about the rest of your system, but most amps have a lpf built in if your deck doesn't. Also if you don't have adustable sub level on your deck, you might want an amp with a remote level control.
Good Luck.

i have a friend with a pair of those subs in 10's powered by a kx250.2 and it gets loud,and yes the port is huge.

I was on the Kicker site and they suggested their 500/600W Amp ...

Just wondering that if I do pick up a better amp (such as this, or better I imagine), I get it installed (because I'm not doing it!), I should be alright and good to go???

Pioneer GM-D510M 600w rms @ 2ohm
Mono Class D Power Amplifier
Suggested Price: CDN$399.99
Probably get it anywhere for 299

Now we're getting somewhere ...

With that "I Need Help" thread up already, I'll ask this dumb question.

You get a weak amp, you don't power your speakers to their full potential, correct?
But what if you get an amp that's too powerful for your speakers or above what is called for, can you potentially blow your speakers?
What do you do, turn the amp down somehow?

Oh yes, I'm lost. Thanks.

Here is my opinion on amp power ratings to speaker power ratings. I'd be very interested to hear what others think?

I think your amp rms power rating should be higher than your speaker rms rating but well below speaker max. The trick is to never, never ever, drive your amp into distortion.
More speakers are blown from distortion than from power. Most newbies who blow new speakers is from not enough power, they drive it into clipping to get loud and then wonder why the coil melted.
You need enough power to fully drive your speaker to its potential without ever hitting clipping.

So what you're almost saying is I should buy an amp to cater to my speakers? Because I was thinking hey, if I can get a deal on a BETTER amp than what I need, then I'd be set for max power (I don't want to buy one, then have to buy another when I want it to be louder/more powerful) so I might end up going big once) ...

You couldn't just set it to a "Lower Setting" of sorts or you might actually kill your speakers? Like I said, for the box Kicker suggests their 600W Amp.
I was thinking maybe better if I can get one ...

P.S. What's this "Clipping" ... trust me, I'll WANT to turn it up but I'm not going to ... not with these, oh no no no ...
I'm not blowing these, I don't have that kinda change :P

Hence, this whole entire thread ... I don't need that "Oh that's obvious" ...
NOT TO ME IT WASN'T!!!

you have 1200 watts of powerable woofer
 

who said you could not get a 1200 watt amp? buy the monster amp keep the ohm load down( run it at 4 ohms), better sound quality, and a small break in period. but yet when you go to that spl comp you have it all there to go.

big misconception is that a woofer does not need broke in (BUllsh*t) if you run the woofers low for a week you temper the voice coil, making the woofer handle its power better.

Like i said before most woofers today are made to run half max the max is a competition only rating. you can run them hard if you want but they wont last as long.

So I've got the subs and I pick myself a 600W Amp or better somewhere, get it all installed for me (likely), should I be alright and good to go from there?
I'm just wondering what the next step is and someone tells me "Okay, now you need these speakers or tweeters or a new head stereo unit or SOMETHING ...

Guess I'll find out in soon time :P

I'm going to suggest an amp with a sub-sonic filter.
That box is tuned fairly high, and the subs will handle very lttle power below 30hz.
The GM-510 does give a decent output at $.5o/watt, but you'll need to buy some F-Mods for around $50 to protect the subs, and clean up the sound.

it is always better to overpower than under power! the more control u have over the subs the better that they will sound! so take it from there. hell i would run 2000 watts pluss to those speakers. that is my two bits.

I would have to agree with Justin on that. The lower you can have your gain on your amp the better. I try to never have my amp past 3/4 volume, i find it gives more head room and less distortion witch means less heat. Alot of people don't want to spend the extra money but if possible hitting your power rating at 4ohms would be the best IMO.