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Socrates 05-06-2004 12:28 PM

I've got an MB Quart component set, and I lost the crossover for the tweeter.
I have an external 2-way Phoenix Gold crossover (for the PG sub amp and PG front speaker amp which runs both the mids and tweeters), but it only has high and low pass. None of the shops in town really carry MB Quart anymore, so they cant get me the original crossover that came with this set. My car is sitting idle, and I dont have time to send away for something either.
Can I just use a 6 ohm 16 microfarad capacitor on the tweeter (to cross it over at 1200hz)??
I still want good sound quality.

Socrates 05-06-2004 01:20 PM

Okay, I found a passive cross-over chart online. I have 5.25" MB Quart Mids and separate tweeters (tweeter # QM 13 HX). What do people generally crossover their tweeters at?

Paul Niwranski 05-06-2004 01:24 PM

3500hz @12db/octave for a "standard" car audio 1" tweeter is right in the zone.

Socrates 05-06-2004 01:30 PM

Thank-you for your help!

Socrates 05-07-2004 01:06 PM

This is what I got using an online calculator, what is the difference between 1st order, 2nd order and 3rd order?

1st Order (6 dB per Octave) (diagrams)
L1 (mHy) = (1000 x Impedance) / (6.283 x Crossover Frequency) Coil - L1 0.27285 Millihenries (mHy)
C1 (µfd) = 1,000,000 / (6.283 x Impedance x Crossover Frequency) Capacitor - C1 7.57903 Microfarads (µfd)
2nd Order (12 dB per Octave) (diagrams)
L2 = L1 x 1.414 Coil - L2 0.3858 Millihenries (mHy)
C2 = C1 x .707 Capacitor - C2 5.35837 Microfarads (µfd)
3rd Order (18 dB per Octave) (diagrams)
L3 = L1 x 1.5 Coil - L3 0.40927 Millihenries (mHy)
C3 = C1 x .1.33 Capacitor - C3 10.08011 Microfarads (µfd)
L4 = L1 x .5 Coil - L4 0.13642 Millihenries (mHy)
C4 = C1 x .667 Capacitor - C4 5.05521 Microfarads (µfd)
L5 = L1 x .75 Coil - L5 0.20463 Millihenries (mHy)
C5 = C1 x 2 Capacitor - C5 15.15806 Microfarads (µfd)

Paul Niwranski 05-07-2004 04:23 PM

hmm. you need to go to www.passivecrossovers.com and do some reading.

If something is still confusing, let us know [img]smile.gif[/img]

Socrates 05-09-2004 05:09 PM

Well I solved my problem a different way. I bought a Clarion 3-way electronic crossover. I'll be running one amp to the tweeters, one to the mids, and one to the sub, so I can set the crossover points from my crossover.
I was told having one channel for each speaker will result in better sound as well.

[ May 09, 2004, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: Socrates ]

defro13 05-09-2004 07:21 PM

good electronic in cars will ALWAYS be the best way to go, you chose and bought wisely

Socrates 05-09-2004 11:13 PM

Thanks defro. I'm in Kelowna as well, so I'll try and stop by Andre's and show you the car once its done.


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