OMFG ROFL!@#@

 

The Polygraph has been in effect since Nov 1/05 for the RCMP. It is only done once you have written and passed the primary exam, passed high enough against the rest of Canada to receive a application package, passed the PARE (darn hard, real darn hard) then completed the application package for review, passed the review, passed your basic medical, eyesight, hearing etc. and then finally pass your suitability interview (difficult for most people, mine was over 5 hours). Then and only then if you pass this the interview will you be forwarded onto the polygraph. If successful at this stage, they will complete your background check, interview everyone that you know and then some and finally it will be a last security interview + the required cough please from the RCMP medical services division. Then it's off to Regina if you have passed all of the required steps. It has taken me 12 months to get to the stage that I am at today today from the information seminar and written exam last year. It is not a easy process at all, time consuming and highly demanding. In the end though you end up with a respectable career and a great pension.

 

Actually, with the exception of the RCMP, polygraph testing is mainly a Western Canada thing in the police selection phase.And yes it is very difficult (although not impossible) to fake your way through a polygraph test. That is to say difficult for a "normal" way of thinking person as there are many many people walking in society who do not think normally (and I'm not just talking about my crazy ex-girlfriends )

 

I have heard/read that something like 1% of the population can decieve the detector well enough to pass a simple lie detector test... with practice Iam sure anyone could train themself to beat it, even under pressure... that is why (it would seem) that a polygraph test is not admisible in court as evidence along with the posiblity of a false positive...


I think as a kid Id probably be able to beat that **** anyday of the week... but it seems as I have grown older Ive lost the ability to lie...I think its also pretty well known that kids in general are better liers then their adult counterpart, which is probably why..


I was looking at plans for a lie detector that measures skin capitance... that and a voice stress gizmo and Iam sure I could have some fun with some people...

But I wonder where you could take someone to have a real polygraph administered.... ?

 

Step one: put tac in your shoe right around the big toe area.
Step two: when you have to tell a lie step on tac rasing ones blood pressure and all other funtions that screw with this machine.

Don't wince, the human factor( lie detector dude will see this and compensate for it..)

hmmm 5 hours this might need more work

 

Anything that is out of the ordinary will set off the machine. So while the machine is looking to draw a straight line, a normal heart rythym and a normal breathing pattern. Stepping on a tack would inherently throw a negative result into your test, so to cover up a lie with a false negative, well that will not get you anywhere. There are motion sensors to detect the slightest body movement, sensors on your fingers to detect electrical impulses and sweat, breathing sensors, heartrate monitor and lastly a interviewer who is highly trained and watching you all the time.

Now for a police recruit to want to lie to beat the test, well that tells me that you should not have been there in the first place. This type of polygraph is much different than a polygraph for a crime, far different actually.

The PARE is simple yes, if you are in shape and can run. Out of 15 of us to run the PARE, 6 failed (all younger than myself). If one is say 19 years old, it is much simpler (for the most part) than if you are my age (37). I had no issues running the PARE other than the fact that I want to improve my time.

 

Haunz, apply to the RCMP and you'll get your wish for that polygraph if you make it that far in the application process.

 

So what kind of questions do they ask you MR2NR ??




I believe the idea would be to use the tack to throw off emotional response in a controlled way and only when it would be benificial.... (probably not when you are in the middle of a lie) ie. as the po lays down pressure and accusations you make yourself hurt, then when they ask the yes on nos, you let off and relax as you answer...

But if you were good you wouldn't need a tack.. lol

what is so hard about relaxing as you lie ? for most people alot, but if you train yourself for it then you can do it all night.... just ask my ex

 

Due to confidentiality I cannot disclose the questions that were asked. They are generally different for each person and in my case were based on the questions asked to me in my pre-employment polygraph exam. This is not something that you can study for at all. The tack thing, throw it out the window as well, it will not work. Remember in my case it is a truth verification process, not a lie detection process. They already had my life story laid out in front of them, highly invasive and detailed at that.

Your questions are answered yes or no, by then it is also too late as your body has already provided the answer. Imagine you and a friend are walking up a mountain road and that fargin bastich cougar (big big bastich as well)that attacked our livestock pops out 15 feet in front of you. Chuck Norris is nowhere around and you have nothing to defend youself with. The first thing that happens is a immediate jump in heartrate, your adrenal gland kicks in and things start to happen immediately.

I am sure that you have all had the crap scared out of you at some point in time, this is the same response that the meter is tuned to, yet it is tuned on a much smaller scale. The body will naturaly try and protect itself when faced with something like Mr. Bad Kittay jumping out on you. This is no different than being less than truthful on the polygraph. In this case, the ploygraph will pick up anything, truth or no truth. The only thing it does not know is why and the explanation behind it.