JUSTICE IS SERVED
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio (in Arizona) who created the tent city jail has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
Took away their weights.
Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails.
So he hooked up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton.
If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More on the Arizona Sheriff:
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports:
About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.
Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 1/2 years. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic.
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:
"It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your damn mouths!"
Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one, there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
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He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails.
Took away their weights.
Cut off all but "G" movies.
He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and city projects. Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails.
So he hooked up the cable TV again only let in the Disney channel and the weather channel.
When asked why the weather channel he replied, so they will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.
He cut off coffee since it has zero nutritional value.
When the inmates complained, he told them, "This isn't the Ritz/Carlton.
If you don't like it, don't come back."
He bought Newt Gingrich lecture series on videotape that he pipes into the jails.
When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.
More on the Arizona Sheriff:
With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record), the Associated Press reports:
About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.
On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before.
Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks.
"It feels like we are in a furnace," said James Zanzot, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 1/2 years. "It's inhumane."
Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic.
He said Wednesday that he told all of the inmates:
"It's 120 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to wear full battle gear, but they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your damn mouths!"
Way to go, Sheriff! Maybe if all prisons were like this one, there would be a lot less crime and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
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Yankee
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I'm not saying that this is a bad thing at all but this is not a prison its a jail. So these are people that have stolen cars, drug possession, ect. The murders, rapests, ect dont live in the tents. It seems that the hardcore criminals get better treatment if you ask me.
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Originally posted by M.X.C. TECH:
I'm not saying that this is a bad thing at all but this is not a prison its a jail. So these are people that have stolen cars, drug possession, ect. The murders, rapests, ect dont live in the tents. It seems that the hardcore criminals get better treatment if you ask me.
I'm not saying that this is a bad thing at all but this is not a prison its a jail. So these are people that have stolen cars, drug possession, ect. The murders, rapests, ect dont live in the tents. It seems that the hardcore criminals get better treatment if you ask me.
is it really 120 degrees in Iraq?
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Originally posted by M.X.C. TECH:
but this is not a prison its a jail. So these are people that have stolen cars, drug possession, ect.
but this is not a prison its a jail. So these are people that have stolen cars, drug possession, ect.
Like I say, do the crime, do the time.............time to suck it up princess !
Yankee
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is it really 120 degrees in Iraq?
I like that sheriff
Rehabilitation of inmates is mostly a crock of doodoo. It works in a few cases but basically it is hand holding KOOMBYYAAAaaa nonsense. There are a lot of sex offenders, repeat criminals, molesters, and armed robbery types in most city/ county jails. The local jail down here has small windows and no air conditioning (100 degrees F with 100% humidity in the Summer). I am sorry but jail time should not be a welcome change to the daily routine. Anyone who thinks rehabilitation works let me give them a challenge, how many people do you know were rehabilitated while in jail (not scared straight but given a better opportunity while in the hoosegow).
[ January 20, 2005, 05:45 PM: Message edited by: JohnVroom ]
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Very cool post!
Two years ago I was down in Phoenix on a Law Enforcement Conference and three of us had the opportunity to take a tour of the prison. It is an eye opener.
- Prisoners at Tent City are mostly short timers, less than 2 years.
- There is a tall guard tower with an american flag and a "vacancy" neon sign hanging from it.
- In the tents, there were stand up fans at each end. One prisoner was caught damaging a fan, so ALL of them were taken away.
- When Sherriff Joe began filling the yard with prisoners, he ended up with an empty wing in one of the other prisons (an air conditioned one I might add). At the same time there was an epidemic of animal cruelty acts and the SPCA was full, so they put the dogs in the cells in the empty air conditioned prison. PLUS it cost more to feed the dogs daily then the prisoners at tent city (like 90 cents instead of 45 or so).
- The women's and men's yards are right next to each other, separated by a pair of fences.
- Joe Arpaio gets daily death threats and is tagged for "human rights violations", but is always re-elected into his post and usually with a votiing count of 80% or more.
- When prisoners are asked if they would want to be outside or inside, they pick outside - inside the facility it is only 5 degrees or so cooler and smells, with fairly restricted movement (compared to outside that is).
- Youth prisoners take schooling classes there. This area is one of the few air conditioned places, so there is good incentive to take the courses. Their prison priviledges are directly tied to how well they do in school, and from what we saw it is a very effective program.
When we talked with Joe, he just laughs at how the Canadian prison system works. On the other hand, the prisoners down there don't complain at all. You really don't want to complain to this guy.
Anyway there's way more to the story, but here's some pics:
Sorry, no pics of me and my two buddies scared sh**less!
Mark
[ January 20, 2005, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: NOBASS ]
Two years ago I was down in Phoenix on a Law Enforcement Conference and three of us had the opportunity to take a tour of the prison. It is an eye opener.
- Prisoners at Tent City are mostly short timers, less than 2 years.
- There is a tall guard tower with an american flag and a "vacancy" neon sign hanging from it.
- In the tents, there were stand up fans at each end. One prisoner was caught damaging a fan, so ALL of them were taken away.
- When Sherriff Joe began filling the yard with prisoners, he ended up with an empty wing in one of the other prisons (an air conditioned one I might add). At the same time there was an epidemic of animal cruelty acts and the SPCA was full, so they put the dogs in the cells in the empty air conditioned prison. PLUS it cost more to feed the dogs daily then the prisoners at tent city (like 90 cents instead of 45 or so).
- The women's and men's yards are right next to each other, separated by a pair of fences.
- Joe Arpaio gets daily death threats and is tagged for "human rights violations", but is always re-elected into his post and usually with a votiing count of 80% or more.
- When prisoners are asked if they would want to be outside or inside, they pick outside - inside the facility it is only 5 degrees or so cooler and smells, with fairly restricted movement (compared to outside that is).
- Youth prisoners take schooling classes there. This area is one of the few air conditioned places, so there is good incentive to take the courses. Their prison priviledges are directly tied to how well they do in school, and from what we saw it is a very effective program.
When we talked with Joe, he just laughs at how the Canadian prison system works. On the other hand, the prisoners down there don't complain at all. You really don't want to complain to this guy.
Anyway there's way more to the story, but here's some pics:
Sorry, no pics of me and my two buddies scared sh**less!
Mark
[ January 20, 2005, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: NOBASS ]
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Wicked NOBASS! So far I've only gotten to see the videos in class last semester on how different prisons/jails are ran across the world. And there's a huge difference between a lot of them and how their law enforcement is ran, I can't wait till my field placement I plan on taking it in a correction facility. My best friend got into Brookside Youth Correctional Centre (Not sure if thats the actual title of the place) and a couple others in my class are going to a supermax prison in Ontario (can't remember the name of it) (all girls might I add, the guys are taking their placements with Durham Regional Police, Toronto Metro Police, OPP, and OPG[Ontario Power Generation] Security)
