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George is confused as to why anyone would still use a 8-track. George can't figure what possible benifit this would have other then a need to relive the 70's and experience something they might have missed out on back then.
George is shaking his head.
George is shaking his head.
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2000 Watt CAFz'r
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There's more to the car than just the 8 track.Noone seems to notice the custom work done by the dude kneeling on the cowling,Rob V.O.(LBKC).He did the pods,the box and the mirror finish on the upper intake(notice the reflection of Pet Goat Bob)...
Anyway,I run 8 track because I want to.I used to do it for attention and to make some sort of point.But now its there becaue I want it there.
Anyway,I run 8 track because I want to.I used to do it for attention and to make some sort of point.But now its there becaue I want it there.
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Ok..So I've been up another 24 hr stretch doing more upgrades and testing on the Cavalier.
The evening started out by going out to Andy(A-Rok)'s house to do some mic testing.On the way out,I stopped at Robs house and picked up the 10" Pioneer's I've been thinking about.We set up a payment system I can deal with.Anywho,we(My Buddy Steve came along to learn and get his butt off the couch) got out to Andy's place and went about setting up the 10's in a box he had.A basic slot port setup that he had built,but hit real real real low freq's,but good for testing.Before installing the 10's we did a couple runs on the 12" Sony's.Best we could get out of them was 140.6 at about 53 hrz,but we didnt put much effort into getting them louder.We took the 12's out and finally got the 10's in with good swift kick to the port and some sweat on Andy's part.We began testing and ran into one problem after another(bad connections,out of phase wiring(How did you do that anyway,Andy?hehe)etc.So finally got everything up and running and got a 138.? out of them on the first good burp at about 59 hrz or so.Andy then started playing with the car and the box to try and get it louder.Andy even went as far as knocking the port out and making it smaller...by about 3/4.This brought the peak freq down to about 56/57 hrz.We got a 140.4 out of em after lots of runs.
Taking into consideration the voltage drop of the battery,new subs,and less than perfect box,I would say the Pioneers kicked the Sony's butt.I'm very happy with the results and look forward to seeing what the possibilities are for them.The Sony's by the way,are rated at 1200 max watts and are 12" Pentagonal cone.The Pioneer's are rated at 700 max watts,and basic 10" round cone with one hell of a surround.Also bear in mind as well,I paid more for the Sony's...I learned my lesson.
After leaving Andy's and going for a quick bite to eat,I went andmet Rob,who is sick as a dog with the flu bug I think I passed onto him,and he let me pull into the shop to do some clean up work on my wiring.I loomed all open and exposed wiring or hid them under or in the centre console.Under the hood I took all my wiring for amps and command start and run them in slightly neater mannner.I was getting tired of looking under the hood and hving wires screaming "LOOK AT ME!!"I'm much happier with how it looks now.
The next stage is to upgrade the upper plenum on the engine.I'm pulling off the 2.8 polished intake and mounting a 3.1L intake which is sitting on pizza box on my kitchen floor drying.I painted it wrinkle black.After a second coat,I will then install it on the engine and let Rob polish it in much the same manner as the 2.8L plenum.I will aslo be doing the same look to the front valve cover.It's gonna be sexy,man!!
Anyway..Thats all for now.We will likely be doing more testing again soon.I would like to make a fresh front baffle for me 12" box and mount the 10's in it to see what happens...time will tell..
I'm off to bed now... [img]graemlins/boring.gif[/img]
The evening started out by going out to Andy(A-Rok)'s house to do some mic testing.On the way out,I stopped at Robs house and picked up the 10" Pioneer's I've been thinking about.We set up a payment system I can deal with.Anywho,we(My Buddy Steve came along to learn and get his butt off the couch) got out to Andy's place and went about setting up the 10's in a box he had.A basic slot port setup that he had built,but hit real real real low freq's,but good for testing.Before installing the 10's we did a couple runs on the 12" Sony's.Best we could get out of them was 140.6 at about 53 hrz,but we didnt put much effort into getting them louder.We took the 12's out and finally got the 10's in with good swift kick to the port and some sweat on Andy's part.We began testing and ran into one problem after another(bad connections,out of phase wiring(How did you do that anyway,Andy?hehe)etc.So finally got everything up and running and got a 138.? out of them on the first good burp at about 59 hrz or so.Andy then started playing with the car and the box to try and get it louder.Andy even went as far as knocking the port out and making it smaller...by about 3/4.This brought the peak freq down to about 56/57 hrz.We got a 140.4 out of em after lots of runs.
Taking into consideration the voltage drop of the battery,new subs,and less than perfect box,I would say the Pioneers kicked the Sony's butt.I'm very happy with the results and look forward to seeing what the possibilities are for them.The Sony's by the way,are rated at 1200 max watts and are 12" Pentagonal cone.The Pioneer's are rated at 700 max watts,and basic 10" round cone with one hell of a surround.Also bear in mind as well,I paid more for the Sony's...I learned my lesson.
After leaving Andy's and going for a quick bite to eat,I went andmet Rob,who is sick as a dog with the flu bug I think I passed onto him,and he let me pull into the shop to do some clean up work on my wiring.I loomed all open and exposed wiring or hid them under or in the centre console.Under the hood I took all my wiring for amps and command start and run them in slightly neater mannner.I was getting tired of looking under the hood and hving wires screaming "LOOK AT ME!!"I'm much happier with how it looks now.
The next stage is to upgrade the upper plenum on the engine.I'm pulling off the 2.8 polished intake and mounting a 3.1L intake which is sitting on pizza box on my kitchen floor drying.I painted it wrinkle black.After a second coat,I will then install it on the engine and let Rob polish it in much the same manner as the 2.8L plenum.I will aslo be doing the same look to the front valve cover.It's gonna be sexy,man!!
Anyway..Thats all for now.We will likely be doing more testing again soon.I would like to make a fresh front baffle for me 12" box and mount the 10's in it to see what happens...time will tell..
I'm off to bed now... [img]graemlins/boring.gif[/img]
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Ok,so this weekend as far as SPL goes I was productive as an Escort driver(dadoomching),but from the mechanical and appearence stand point I made some major headway..new intake,vavle cover(both painted wrinkle black and then all raised areas polished to near mirror finish),most of my unhood wiring is loomed and neatly tucked away,and some other odds and ends.
Unfortunatly,All I got done on the SPL side is a new baffle and holes cut in it.I learned alot about what to do and HELL OF ALOT about what not to do when cutting holes in a baffle..newbie with power tools here. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] Hope to get some mic time on this setup soon...and not at 1 am... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Does anyone know where I can buy some good used power tools other than pawn shops?I need to start buying some of my own...look out guys..Aaron's looking for power tools.. [img]graemlins/gunsarecool.gif[/img]
I will get some pics posted as soon as I can..
Talk at ya'll later...I'm off to look at body work supplies...me no likey.. [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]
Unfortunatly,All I got done on the SPL side is a new baffle and holes cut in it.I learned alot about what to do and HELL OF ALOT about what not to do when cutting holes in a baffle..newbie with power tools here. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] Hope to get some mic time on this setup soon...and not at 1 am... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Does anyone know where I can buy some good used power tools other than pawn shops?I need to start buying some of my own...look out guys..Aaron's looking for power tools.. [img]graemlins/gunsarecool.gif[/img]
I will get some pics posted as soon as I can..
Talk at ya'll later...I'm off to look at body work supplies...me no likey.. [img]graemlins/cry.gif[/img]
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Well....the 12" box is now converted...just need to wire up and see what we got...So glad to have my own jigsaw now...$25 Walmart Special...
[img]http://genji.image.pbase.com/u43/8trackboy/upload/27783240.Apr09123.JPG[img/]
Hope to have the trunk sound deadened and painted over the weekend and some more pics....
[img]http://genji.image.pbase.com/u43/8trackboy/upload/27783240.Apr09123.JPG[img/]
Hope to have the trunk sound deadened and painted over the weekend and some more pics....
