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Wagoneyezed 05-09-2007 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by silverbane
What numbers you looking for for a 1500Watt amp? What are you looking to see?

scores that match the power numbers they claim.

seems like in their "tests" they put out a ton of power but then on the sensor their scores are very mediocre and they just become another 1500 watt amp.

SUX 2BU 05-09-2007 01:07 PM

I'm of the opinion that 1500W RMS = 150 min. At least mid 40's.

I had an SQ system in my Daytona. One 250W RMS amp bridged into a 10+ year old Alpine 15" SQ sub in a 2.8 cu. ft. ported box. I was able to hit 139 at an IASCA show with that setup. I shake my head when I see sub-140s these days on 'SPL' systems with over 1000 watts. Somethings not right with the gear or the setup.

SPLN00B2 05-09-2007 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by SUX 2BU
I'm of the opinion that 1500W RMS = 150 min. At least mid 40's.

I had an SQ system in my Daytona. One 250W RMS amp bridged into a 10+ year old Alpine 15" SQ sub in a 2.8 cu. ft. ported box. I was able to hit 139 at an IASCA show with that setup. I shake my head when I see sub-140s these days on 'SPL' systems with over 1000 watts. Somethings not right with the gear or the setup.

IASCA is metered different than db drag, i bet that stereo would be doing low 30s on a termlab.

silverbane 05-09-2007 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by SUX 2BU
I'm of the opinion that 1500W RMS = 150 min. At least mid 40's.

I had an SQ system in my Daytona. One 250W RMS amp bridged into a 10+ year old Alpine 15" SQ sub in a 2.8 cu. ft. ported box. I was able to hit 139 at an IASCA show with that setup. I shake my head when I see sub-140s these days on 'SPL' systems with over 1000 watts. Somethings not right with the gear or the setup.

Funny that you say that whent he rex that was at the dbdrag ran a 152 with 6kwatts...

And no, our systems was horribly put together...we need new box, more copper, testing on tl...

Wagoneyezed 05-09-2007 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by silverbane
Funny that you say that whent he rex that was at the dbdrag ran a 152 with 6kwatts...

And no, our systems was horribly put together...we need new box, more copper, testing on tl...

exactly my point. See how much easier it is to claim a 1500 watt amp puts out 3000+ than it is to get loud with it as if it were a 3000 watt amp.

silverbane 05-09-2007 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Wagoneyezed
exactly my point. See how much easier it is to claim a 1500 watt amp puts out 3000+ than it is to get loud with it as if it were a 3000 watt amp.

I dont know of any 1500 watt amps that put out over 3kwatts...

If you are talking about me, I have 2 1500 watts amps strapped...

And I know it can do better when i am not using a prefab box and have more then 1 run of 4GA wire...

SPLn00b 05-09-2007 10:18 PM

doubling your power wire will gain you .2db at the most, which would put you at a 140.0

what are you running for subs?

Mini Steve 05-09-2007 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by silverbane
I dont know of any 1500 watt amps that put out over 3kwatts...

If you are talking about me, I have 2 1500 watts amps strapped...

And I know it can do better when i am not using a prefab box and have more then 1 run of 4GA wire...

4 g wire. Boy I wish I could get away that ( the Mini does). The explorer has 8 runs of 1 and the power wheels has 4. Tha microwave won't even burp unless it has 4 runs pluged in. Your right the pre fab probably has to go too.

silverbane 05-09-2007 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by SPLn00b
doubling your power wire will gain you .2db at the most, which would put you at a 140.0

what are you running for subs?

I would be willing to bet by more, It is not easy to pull 3k watts off of 4GA wire...

Subs are Clif designs CD120C.

I also need new box asap...

SPLn00b 05-09-2007 11:01 PM

Honestly, its not very easy to pull off when using sundrounz on a single 12V battery, maybe on a few 16V batts they could do 3K

I tested z1's to do about 5300 Real world watts on a single optima group 31, battery dropping to 11V, amps strapped at .375 ohms


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