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07-23-2005, 10:05 PM
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This post is for everyone to read it has to do with all of us so read carefully. My name is Nick Cimino for all those who dont know me Im the Caraudio show Cord for North of the Border Bash show in August. Today I attended a well known show that happens every year called Dark Nights wich is one if not the biggest import car shows in Canada. So this is my issue I walked around the show and what do I see 80% of the distributors and caraudio companies that I contacted for support for our show where there. These people telling me that money is tight blah blah giving me all these stories brushing me off and here they all were in the same place what a joke and mauchery they made of themselves. Lets see these imports arent the ones buying 20 pound amps and 80 pound woffers cause that would hurt there e.t times and they would rather go buy a turbo or a b16 motor for there hondas before they spent a dime on caraudio. Back in the day the show offered an Iasca event and they dont anymore or have anyting to do with our industry so why would these people support such a crowd. This post was put up to show all you die hard caraudio fans where our support is going not to us that use the product but to people that dont this makes me sick to my stomach and hopefully yours. Then they blame shows like Audiothunder going under to lack of registration whatever today I saw the truth and thought you gys should know also. Our show wich has 2 sanctioned bodies would be a great sucess if we could get half the support that I seen at the show today. Last but not least I want to take a moment to thank our supporters you all know who you are and I hope we will have a great turn out and some of these othere companies come to there sencess and support all of our cause.
thanx for reading I know it was long and I hope that this gets onto the termpro Audioforum so all the people can read this I have nothing to hide and will use my wright of fredom of speech.
Nick Cimino
contact at 1-905 971-7467
[ July 23, 2005, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: Mr.American Bass ]
thanx for reading I know it was long and I hope that this gets onto the termpro Audioforum so all the people can read this I have nothing to hide and will use my wright of fredom of speech.
Nick Cimino
contact at 1-905 971-7467
[ July 23, 2005, 11:10 PM: Message edited by: Mr.American Bass ]
07-23-2005, 10:30 PM
#2
That is such a shame, but this should be posted in General Discussion. I am from the west, and just took a look at it and I totally agree with the manufacturers not giving the actual industry their support. It is the local businesses that do all the work here, and the reps get the credit.
07-24-2005, 06:35 AM
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Nick... you know there is this exact reason I have not gone to that show for the past few years... its like looking in PAS mag... the past years WORLD finals were not even touched how on TEAM CANADA performed, I wasnt there but would have been nice to read about it and see the pictures
07-26-2005, 05:40 AM
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i cannot not speak for everyone but here goes, my 2 cents. It is frustrating to not get distributor support. but here are 2 things to think about.
1) should you be on a forum bashing them for not supporting you. You want thier support and you are criticising them for not supporting you in the way you want them to. I too put on shows and i too find it difficult to get support somtimes but it is a fact that darknights,SCN,DTP, Audiothunder and Importfest draws a much bigger crowd. and it is about sales. Ive seen triple events with 10-20 cars and barely a few spectators. and ive seen non sanctioned shows with 60+ cars and hundreds of spectators. but in the end there is no hard feeling or whining that the support was not what is expected. seeing your post on here would not make a manuf change thier mind about your show.
picture this. if manuf/dist dealer doesnt support you and you complain publically, then what is to keep you from bashing them if they support you only a little bit(not to your standard). you are obviously frustrated, but clubbing them over the head for not helping you , is exactly that, it is not helping you.
2)i work at a distributor. and i have been around the show scene for a few years. My boss actually mentioned your show to me. we wanted to get involved with your show. But my company doesnt support shows. it supports dealers. we got your info package a long time ago and there has not been a follow up, nor a call to see about support. you may or may have not done a follow up, but it has not reached the proper people. i heard your name and NOTB show about 2 months ago. all the decision on show support are made at the end of the year or begining of the year(dec/jan). you cant expect large companies to just change thier laid out budget to accomodate a big show.i already know what shows my company is doing next year. and it is only july.
so back to the lack of follow up each monday i ask, has anyone stepped forward to ask for support on this show, and i get a no. If no dealers ask for support for your show, how are we to get involved out of the blue. all it takes i one company to ask for support and we are there to support. none have asked. so you need to step it up and follow up with dealers one by one to see about getting support. I want to goto your show, i was already told that if the dealer asked for it, im ther to support. but i cant book a flight and bring out the show gear until some dealers ask for our support.
I did not post this to get a reaction from you. I posted it cause i think that you should change your method of trying to get support. call them, dont bash them on line. i want for your show to do well. and to become a yearly thing where a triple iasca dn db drag happens. Id even make efforts to come compete , all th way from here in Vancouver. Thanks for putting on a show. No one said that it would be easy.
Good Luck
[ July 26, 2005, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Team Shadow ]
1) should you be on a forum bashing them for not supporting you. You want thier support and you are criticising them for not supporting you in the way you want them to. I too put on shows and i too find it difficult to get support somtimes but it is a fact that darknights,SCN,DTP, Audiothunder and Importfest draws a much bigger crowd. and it is about sales. Ive seen triple events with 10-20 cars and barely a few spectators. and ive seen non sanctioned shows with 60+ cars and hundreds of spectators. but in the end there is no hard feeling or whining that the support was not what is expected. seeing your post on here would not make a manuf change thier mind about your show.
picture this. if manuf/dist dealer doesnt support you and you complain publically, then what is to keep you from bashing them if they support you only a little bit(not to your standard). you are obviously frustrated, but clubbing them over the head for not helping you , is exactly that, it is not helping you.
2)i work at a distributor. and i have been around the show scene for a few years. My boss actually mentioned your show to me. we wanted to get involved with your show. But my company doesnt support shows. it supports dealers. we got your info package a long time ago and there has not been a follow up, nor a call to see about support. you may or may have not done a follow up, but it has not reached the proper people. i heard your name and NOTB show about 2 months ago. all the decision on show support are made at the end of the year or begining of the year(dec/jan). you cant expect large companies to just change thier laid out budget to accomodate a big show.i already know what shows my company is doing next year. and it is only july.
so back to the lack of follow up each monday i ask, has anyone stepped forward to ask for support on this show, and i get a no. If no dealers ask for support for your show, how are we to get involved out of the blue. all it takes i one company to ask for support and we are there to support. none have asked. so you need to step it up and follow up with dealers one by one to see about getting support. I want to goto your show, i was already told that if the dealer asked for it, im ther to support. but i cant book a flight and bring out the show gear until some dealers ask for our support.
I did not post this to get a reaction from you. I posted it cause i think that you should change your method of trying to get support. call them, dont bash them on line. i want for your show to do well. and to become a yearly thing where a triple iasca dn db drag happens. Id even make efforts to come compete , all th way from here in Vancouver. Thanks for putting on a show. No one said that it would be easy.
Good Luck
[ July 26, 2005, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Team Shadow ]
07-27-2005, 03:14 PM
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Not to sound like I'm advertising but Future Shop and Best buy will only host shows at events like that now, unlike a few years ago where they had their own league.
I only hope that independant car audio retailers and true audio freaks will keep on having the shows whether or not the company reps give their support. It's always nice when the reps do give support. [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
[ July 27, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Pancake ]
I only hope that independant car audio retailers and true audio freaks will keep on having the shows whether or not the company reps give their support. It's always nice when the reps do give support. [img]graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
[ July 27, 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Pancake ]
07-27-2005, 09:42 PM
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i don't have much to say but i would certainly have to agree with what u had to say for the most part. it seems like it is pulling teath to get a shirt now adays. lol. however i don't personaly have a lot to complain about seeing as how there is good support from our dealers! witch is awesome to see for a change. once again i deffinatly sympathise, but like pat said as well is it the dealers that are to blame or has car lost a lot of its luster to the tunners?! the best question is how do we gain it back though. how do you exite an indistry that is beating it's self down so hard with always tring to be cheeping. a bit of an up hill battle if u ask me!
07-27-2005, 11:45 PM
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We will gain it back by more people comming to shows and getting dealers and companies to come out also and support thats what Im trying to acomplish with our show I just want everyone to understand this. Trust me we are not putting on this caraudio part of the show to gain finance thats why I need the support from dealers and companies to help offset the cost to put this show on.
08-07-2005, 07:03 PM
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I think what will fix this the orginisations IASCA and dB Drag making classes that people that can't afford to spend 10 000 $ to be competitive like for instance what they are doing with the OSPL league. I have only been in it since last year but i hear story's from the the ones who have been doing spl for some time know the way the rules are set to be competitive to day u have no choice but to buy the big amps and strong subs where if we make it where people that only have 600W amp and subs that can only handle 300W a place to play we will get more of them at shows. [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
