why did abbotsford host a iasca training ?
 

as the title states what was the point of 604 hosting a training seminar with no intention of even hosting a show this year ?????

umm because they...ummm.., ya i got nothing

doesnt really make sense you want to help the sport by hosting a training seminar thats fantastic , but then say you dont want to host a show because theirs no interest and shows cost money wow that really helps the industry grow , helps keep the shows coming

i have a feeling next year will be alot of backyard shows

tony offered up his location for training as a personal favor to Jason. had nothing to due with hosting or potentially hosting a show. just good will on Tonys part.. I think more of us should due stuff like that... Tony did what was best for our hobbie, with no personal gain to himself or the shop.... GREAT JOB TONY..

yes i agreeee great job for hosting the training but why not do a show , when as we all know theres a lack there of in that department this year

he dosent see the benefits of hosting shows for value to his bottom line..Thats his opinion and as much as i dont agree with it, its still his opinion.. that what makes his jesture so nice.. he had zero interest in hosting but still opened the doors to iasca..Now if Tony was to hold a show he would go Daves style..and thats a big IF.

just dont think it should be up to soundsgood and joe to host the only shows in bc , 3 shows this year in our province is just rediculous , if just 1 or 2 other shops would step up we would have way more shows and competitors , driving 10 plus hrs just to get to a single pt show is just way to huge of an expense i remember the first 604 show i went to there was 50 plus cars there that was great to seee i just wish theyd step up and do 1 show this year

First off - it's pretty douche move attacking a shop/shop owner who does not post here. You rock. :thumbsup:

You come off like you know what went on but obviously you forget that Jason was in town anyway and he wanted to host a training. He was looking for a venue. I contacted Tony who immediately said he would do it. Nice move on his part IMO since none of the regulars here stepped up.

You want to know what was crap - the fact there were FOUR of us there. Don't get me wrong, the more one on one I get, the better IMO but what a waste of Jason's time. Lots of people talk but nobody steps up. Maybe this is why no one wants to host a show - not a lot of support from the community except for lip flapping.

And if Tony doesn't want to host a show then what business is it of yours? If you want more shows, how about you host them? Maybe it would give you something to do other than bitch about other people's shows or them not hosting shows.

fail.

i asked a question about whats the point of hosting training when you have no intention of hosting a show , i dont have anything against tony i just dont understand why he wont do a show , your the one who attacks me on this site constantly , considering ive never seen you at a show what exactly do you do to support the industry ?

and what have you done? you put on a show? you hold a training event? did you pass out fliers? help the judges at a show? one of the biggest turn offs for retailers is drama (drama doesn't sell crap and people get emotional over a hobby). Remember to be part of the solution.



If you want shows support retailers who have shows, isn't that simple! I did a lot of shows and I saw a lot of this stuff, it is hard to have shows if your only marginally profitable BUT a good show should involve the retailer and the competitor so that they better understand each other (the retailer must sell what the competitor wants at a reasonable cost and the customer needs to take advantage of a shop with a clue to SQ or a clue to SPL). It takes a lot of work sometimes to build a show up (it can take putting on several shows a year but eventually they will come). A car audio show should be a basic PR tool for most reputable shops, it is a great opportunity to grow the business.

i totally agreee

thats why i havnt had a problom donating prizes for shows or help judge showss this year , I do what i can to help out , im working on a venue for a september show ill be putting on and also will be donating prizes to the western finals , i dont have a problom putting on shows or helping out at shows id just like to sport to continue to grow its in a rutt right now here in the west and i wanna push to keep it going strong

I told you why - nobody else stepped up (how about attacking the shops that didn't even host a training), and as a personal favor to both Jason and me.

He doesn't want to. He has no need to justify it to you.

Not really. Just when you're being an ass and, in this case, discrediting a good friend of mine.

I work in it. I've taught/trained countless people on all things car audio. I do things like get my friends to host an IASCA training. I spend a ton of time here both helping people out and keeping an eye on people like you.

What I don't do: Go online and bitch that shops don't hold shows or that their shows don't accommodate my personal needs, or that it costs so much for me to go to shows because I live in a remote area.

By attacking shops for trying to help get qualified people out there so IF any of the other 20 shops in the greater Vancouver area that haven't done a damned thing want to host a show they don't have to import a judge out of Seattle? Is it working?



How many VanIsland shops are hosting an IASCA show this year? Those are right in your own backyard man. Hey - it wouldn't even cost you so much and take so long for you to travel to..

ya as the title states training for what does nothing to help anyone and why host training when theres no intention to do a show , doesnt take an idiot to seee that it doesnt make sense

im already a certified iasca judge and there will be a show on vancouver island this year weather it be iasca, db drag or usaci there will be a show so thats money out of my pocket to do the show none of the money hungry shops that are only out for a proffit

Money Hungry shops that are only out for profit, ouch Luke I strongly suggest you tone that down. Comments like that are going to offend many retailers, and with that being said the ones who were thinking of doing shows will definitely think twice because of what you said. I've been installing for 20 years in this industry, retail = profit that is how it is, bottom line. How a person goes about there retail business will equal how successful they will be. Good thing I'm the only CCA member at my shop I work at.

He can't help himself. He's nothing but a hobbit.

didnt single out 1 shop i said some shops will not do shows because they know they will not proffit from the show , doesnt take a genious to seee that some shops only care about 1 thing and 1 thing only and thats making a proffit , not giving back to the customer

So if it makes sense to you, then...

Which is damned scary. See above.

Obviously it doesn't since you fail to see that shops have to look at a bigger picture than merely providing a means for you to conduct your hobby.

its not a hobby its a lifestyle , its suppose to be the shops passion as well , whatever if you want to see competitions die then thats your oppinion

whoa boys, Paul member count to 10 he is young... Luke telling Paul anything about this industry is like Jorden Eberly of the Oilers telling MR. Wayne Gretzky how to score goals.. to some this is a lifestyle.. hell Paul and I have been doing this since 1989 tell me this is a hobbie for us!! and its not up to the stores to nurture our passion, its about the industry as a whole. I have seen this hobbie go from shows with over 200 cars and 10 vendors showing up with demo cars, tents, swag ect. to almost no show anywhere in Canada, back up to its heyday a couple of yrs ago with lots of iasca and usaci.. Now we are slowly going the wrong way again. Not due to anything other than lack of shows, but i will be hard pressed to hit 10 this yr!! the shops have to be willing to hold shows, knowing they are going to get support from there suppliers, the suppliers wont help unless it fattens there bottom line which means, simple selling more product. that means more cars showing up. See the vicious circle. few cars show up, no dealer support, and the only one out of pocket is the shop.. so to hell with the industry.. i am not going to host any shows and lose money.. another problem is the internet. when i started doing these shows. i would see wicked cars decked out with kick butt stuff that i must have.. where do i buy it, well at the shop that hosted the show.. not now.. i see the 4000watt dd. amp for $3500.00 gag at the price, go online and find a soundstream xxx5000 for 2000bucks and buy it there. the loss of sales due to the internet is one of the biggest setbacks as far as iam concerned. it dosent benefit the host shop, or the manufactures.. Hell i could rant all day on this topic alone but suffice it to say, the industry as a whole must change to get this hobbie firing again on all 8 cylenders. I will be at as many shows as i can but i also due have almost 100 shows under my belt so far..

I don't normally read this crap section but I thought I would and I am glad I did. Goalie just closed the thread with that last post. God I miss winning $1000 first place at Slam Jam Finals. Thats what I want to see again for you guys but we ALL must work together.

I totally agree randy im young , but at the same time im investing thousands of dollors into raffles and shows trying to get things going again , when i see 3 shows total for an entire province that upsets me , ive worked extremelly hard to help out vendors or hosts with prizes and swagg this year invested prizes for ppl who actually come out to shows as all i want is more shows im prepared to invest money into shows and help shops with the costs of shows , i know pauls been around a long time and i resepct what he has done , but the way he acts towords me doesnt sit well with me ive never seen him a a show nor herd him say anything nice about me for that matter so of course im going to stand up for myself and as don stated everyone needs to work together to get more shows which is kinda why ive donated thousands this year in prizes

need more popcorn.

^ You came to the right section dude. Where you been the past couple summers?




I just laugh out loud when you post. :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=Dukk;656650]^ You came to the right section dude. Where you been the past couple summers? QUOTE]


I stopped competing a couple of years ago(went to a couple of local ones with what i had) and last yr we bought atv's and I dropped right out of competing all together....can't afford 2 expencive "lifestyles" lol

we have had nothing but a blast on the atv's. but I still have to pop in here once in a wile to annoy "THE MASTER OF SPL"

Why do you keep saying that you spent so much money donating prizes more than once in this thread? Are you looking for some recognition? Go work on your car and get it loud then you'll get some recognition. Better yet, someone out west please say thank you luke for donating all those thousands of dollars worth of prizes before he says it again.:cheeky4:

"like" !!!!!

everyone who posts on here MUST compete at one show this yr.. done!!! put up or shut up.. this is a forum to promote our hobbie. either you are promoting or lurking and i hate lurkers... Luke supports by showing up, Paul supports by tech support, moderating and promoting through media channels, Will promotes by being so damn good looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol we all can be apart of the problem or we all can find a solution to the issues. Man up boys. balls on the table. either play or get the hell off these web sites!

WOW!! that kind of felt good.. sorry about the last rant tho..

lol thats awesome

agreeed people who hide behind a computer and do nothing to support the industry just cause are the problom , so a certain somone in this thread whos done nothing but sit on his asss and do nothing but call me out all year can bring a vehicle down to the soundgood show and compete against me ya thats right george im calling you out since you seem to think my car is weak and isnt loud you should have no problom beating my car

I was going to ask whom you were referring to, but I think it's obvious now :p


Randy - I thought you were on a Green Death rampage there for a minute.. :laugh:

personally i think Luke just would like to see the shows go on anyone who does comps could care less about the prizes we go out to have fun and compite against each other and visit with one another its not hard to figure it out but there is shops that yes could set up a little more other than just bitching about it all the time .Personally id like to see more shows that is for sure even if there isnt prizes who cares

lol funny stuff ....when did I say your car was weak? hell i even congrats you on your finalls score dick. w/e.

I have better things to spend my $$$ THAT I WORK FOR on. I am done with compeeting and you know that but there is nothing wrong with me being on this site. so call me out all you want ...call away.

thats fine that you dont want to compete anymore , but why be a dick all the time ? why constantly try and start with me I never said anything about you

Hey Jones its pretty dahm simple man if u dont like what u read then dont read it its simple instead of opening your mouth cause i swear your mouth is more louder then your stereo

I am not a dick ALL the time.

lets go back to when you said that I was lame because I scrapped the new project car and sold my gear because I didn't want to compete anymore....hmmmm?

well in a competitor stand point that is lame starting a car and not getting a chance to see the car burp or compete in my eyes is lame , thats my oppinion and im entitled to that, thats not saying anything about you so why be a dick because i think selling a car is lame ?

As for Loudlemon wow , instead of being a has been on the SPL side and your more into ATV then go on the Atv site not a caraudio site so in other words i guess in a way step up loudlemon or be a lemon there is a comp aug 7th in kamloops prove me wrong that your not a has been and come do a little competion other then talking trash

i think the only way to fix this problem loudlemon is to come back and go one more time in the spl world