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Old 05-16-2006, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GTPJAY
They had some weird washer type thing on them I noticed.

I am using 2" deck screw's for my box, pre drilling and have no issues.
the washer type things are probly beauty rings. and imo 2"screws are extreme overkill. i use 1 1/4" #8 deck screws and i they provide enough force to hold the wood togther.

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pre-drill and make sure you blow out the holes, sometimes drilled wood is still in the holes and when you tighten the srews it puts extra pressure on the wood which can cause a split.
then you arnt counter sinking properly,you should not have to blow out the holes after you drill them.make sure you leave you drill in forward (clockwise) as you drill in and leave it forward (clockwise) as you pull the drill bit out.
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hofulstrof
just put them in snugly.oh and make sure you use plenty of high quality wood glue. the screws are only there to hold the wood togther while the glue is drying
I never really thought of it like that. I always thought the glue was just an air sealent. I wasn't planning on using glue on my bracing but it seems like a smart idea now.

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You have to be extra careful when doing thin pieces or something like those triangles cuz on the one end it obviously does not have a lot of meat to it. Up your predrill to 9/64 (thicker than the shank of the screw but obviously smaller than the threads) so there is little pressure to split the wood.
Alrighty, i will try that too, I was going to use 1/8 at first but I was afraid that the threads would not catch enough wood.


Thanks everyone for the knowledge. I am very tweaked at the moment because I found out it will probly be more than two weeks before I get my subs in. This is the reason... I went looking for some mdf today and these were my results: Hill Top Lumber - Doesn't Carry, Fleet Farm - Doesn't Carry, Menards - Out of stock (new shipment in 1.5 weeks), Alexandria Lumber - Doesn't Carry, and we could not find the other lumber place. So ya I am kind of mad but I need to improve my patients somehow.
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You said something about MDF being harder to work with than fiberboard. What do you mean? MDF is an acronym for Medium Density Fiberboard. Everybody else has given good advice. Make sure you aren't too close to an end either. What thickness of wood are you using? I find staying at least 1.5" away from the end is need regardless of thickness. Particle board screws I believe have a coarser thread than regular wood screws, but not as coarse as decking or drywall screws.

I built my amp rack and 8" sub box out of 1/2" and I encountered a few splits. I've learned though that countersinking is paramount and keep away from the ends. I think most of my problem was being too close to the ends. I have a countersink like the one 2nd from the left that was posted and I love using it.
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I was too lazy/cheap to go buy a counter sink so I just went over my holes with 1/4 bit and just went about 1/8th into the wood. Worked great and I didn't have to buy any extra's.

If you have to buy a bit anyways then go with the counter sink.
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Just go in 1.5 inches from the end, it's just that easy. On small pieces, pre drill in the center of the piece and hand tighten it. You should have no issues. I don't remember who posted this comment "use a drill bit the same size as the shack of the screw" they are correct. Also I use #8 or #10 1 1/2 screws from Home depot. Works every time!
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Yea, when i started to drill 1.5 inch from the end it worked a few times but then the wood split again so after reading all those replys I think i will be good if i upgrade to 9/64 and maby move in another .5 inch. Thanx for the tips.
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have you looked at steel stud #8 screws thay have a drill tip
but i would go with the air gun 1st
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Old 09-01-2006, 07:44 PM
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CLAMPS !! Have you never heard of clamps ?..

I use them for everything, when i plan on building my box, i'm ganna try to do minimal screwage, since it saves you on sanding work from filling the holes with putty, and doesn't look too too bad !!

I guess you could say clamping gets some getting used to though.. it can get frustrating sometimes
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Old 09-01-2006, 07:54 PM
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just thought id tell ya that this post is REALLY old and that I ran into some clamps at pamida one day and have built three boxes since without any cracking or going through the side. BUT! I must say that that clamp is kick ***! The clamps I bought are hard to use because sometimes the wood will become crooked but that home made clamp looks like it would work mericles
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Old 09-01-2006, 08:13 PM
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Yea clamps are amazing ! .. Alot of glue and clamps, I dunno bout screws when i'm ganna build my box tho.. got any refs for me you can pm to me about a ported box for a backseat armrest ? lol
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