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Old 12-28-2006, 06:32 PM
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Man you love to put a beautiful spin on things to come up with answers for the products you sell.

He says it's an Everstart Maxx battery on the factory alt. So the car is running for him to get 14v.

He also said he added an Eagle Picher battery and they only come in a 12v. Again, meaning the car was on to get it up to 14v.

He doesn't have to flat out say "I'm running different voltages" because it's stated very obviously. So uhm... "you really should really do some research before casting a judgement."
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As I said Jordy, I was not totally sure. I even stated that in my last post. And no spin just making mention of the product and it's capablities. Thats all. Obviously I am a little bias to what I sell but it is a great product that people should not overlook or under estimate. But thanks for the kind words Jordy.

I know it's not DD, Incriminator, Earthquake or some other brand named piece of overpriced equipment so it must be . Cause we have a full cheering squad here for "only the best name brand product will do". If we never tried new brands and the underdogs then we would be stuck at just "ok" or "good" and never hit great or exceptional.

I was never trying to put a spin on things. All I said was never judge a book by its cover.

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Old 12-28-2006, 07:59 PM
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Hi Guys,

I moved this out of the way so the rest of the industry can chime in as well with their observations and spin methods.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:01 PM
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Oh great this is jump on Smartass thread now....... And BTW now that this is out of the way. WTF do have against me and my business Jordy or whoever else has an issue with me. I try and help out other vendors and members on this board and I get on.

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If it was a jump on smartass session I would have left it in the open forum so all your customers can watch the pissing contest between you two.
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Sorry GTCARS I didn't mean it that way, the problem is I have no problems with anyone here. So I don't get it.
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OK I will start then, the guys post I made mention of was vauge. He is obviously a hardcore SPL guy. For people looking to get into SPL or looking for an amp not knowing to much they would have not known or understood all the capabliities behind the amp. I simply said that it may have been running or not and may have had a higher voltage system as not everyone knows what an Eagle Picher Battery is or the voltage it retains at rest. And then I made mention that the amp is very equal from 12-14volts on output power. I feel that I should be allowed to defend a product I sell that is new on the market. Especially when a die hard DD/Memphis fan says something about it with just seeing a picture. And then a MOD of all people jumps on my words. Tell me Im wrong. I have the honour of being a paid sponsor here and think I have the the right to defend myself or a product.
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Originally Posted by Smartass
As I said Jordy, I was not totally sure. I even stated that in my last post. And no spin just making mention of the product and it's capablities. Thats all. Obviously I am a little bias to what I sell but it is a great product that people should not overlook or under estimate. But thanks for the kind words Jordy.

I know it's not DD, Incriminator, Earthquake or some other brand named piece of overpriced equipment so it must be . Cause we have a full cheering squad here for "only the best name brand product will do". If we never tried new brands and the underdogs then we would be stuck at just "ok" or "good" and never hit great or exceptional.

I was never trying to put a spin on things. All I said was never judge a book by its cover.
Ok... I'll answer these 2 big ones one-by-one....

For you to say there was no 'spin' is pure BS. You gave another member crap for no knowing the details, and then putting up false info.

The review that someone linked to is CLEARLY done on a a 12/14v electrical system. Someone mentioned that and you gave them crap for not finding out the real details when they were right.

I have no problem with you or the product. In fact, I think those amps look great and wouldn't even mind trying some for myself. I just can't stand when business owners spin results to try and BS consumers.

Not everyone on this board knows enough about car audio to be able to tell what is true and what is BS... as a MOD of this board (I'll get to that in my next post) I feel it's my job to make sure that the truth is out there and it's crystal clear.

Also you're nuts for saying that DD or Incriminator is an over priced piece of . Clearly you've never used any of the equipment. All of it performs at or well beyond their advertised spec. Which is WAY more than you can say for some of the lines you carry.
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See again slamming the gear I carry. I never gave false info. And I never said DD and Incriminator is overpriced pieces of . Read my post. I said equipment. I know DD and Incriminator is great product I just think it's slightly overpriced. Never mind dude this is pointless. I know you hate all the lines I carry and so on, so whats the point. And for the record I clarified my post afterwards.
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Originally Posted by Smartass
OK I will start then, the guys post I made mention of was vauge. He is obviously a hardcore SPL guy. For people looking to get into SPL or looking for an amp not knowing to much they would have not known or understood all the capabliities behind the amp. I simply said that it may have been running or not and may have had a higher voltage system as not everyone knows what an Eagle Picher Battery is or the voltage it retains at rest. And then I made mention that the amp is very equal from 12-14volts on output power. I feel that I should be allowed to defend a product I sell that is new on the market. Especially when a die hard DD/Memphis fan says something about it with just seeing a picture. And then a MOD of all people jumps on my words. Tell me Im wrong. I have the honour of being a paid sponsor here and think I have the the right to defend myself or a product.
I don't even know where to start with this... the guy is hardcore SPL in a freaking Mistu Lancer?? Are you KIDDING ME? Learn what hardcore is before you start a sentence with junk like that. This guy is nowhere near hardcore and is basically running a 'daily driver' system... a big one, but still, nowhere near a hardcore system.

Then, you say it MAY have had a higher voltage system when it's pretty damn obvious that it was done on a stock electrical. The guy even says it was with a factory alt. I can't think of a single vehicle that runs any higher voltage than the stock 12/14v. A quick check of the Eagle Picher battery would have told you it was a 12v battery so for you to say "I didn't know" is garbage. If you're going to post info like that then do your research first.

Funny how all of your assumptions are to make your product look good. If you really wanted to help the consumers of this board you'll find out the info and THEN post it.

I'm all for you defending your product. Just make sure you do it with facts and valid info instead of BS and assumptions.

Also, the fact that I'm a mod shouldn't have anything to do with this. Neither should the fact that you're a paying vendor.

As a mod I don't lose my right to inform people. As a vendor you don't gain the right to post whatever you want and make false claims.

The problem is that I called you on your and now you've got a stick up your *** about it.

The product looks great and it should be able to speak for itself... you don't have to make up BS to try and make it look better.
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