Allan74

iTrader: (-1)

Fair enough. Please tell me what (3) DVC 3ohm subs wired in series/parallel will equal.

Don't kid yourself, there's more to Ohm's Law than always having singular, or multiple 4ohm impedances to calculate each time.

Mr.DatSubishi

When you're dealing with equal impedances it is fairly simple. Your setup would be 4.5 ohms or .5 ohms

And yeah there's waaay more to ohms law, including the parts that have nothing to do with impedance. But again, that's not what were talkin about here. Why don't we answer questions as they come. And I thought it was a pretty accurate as to what we are actually talkin about and a good BASIC theory of how it relates to the topic.

Allan74

iTrader: (-1)

You better show me your calculations, because I don't know how you calculated, but you are 100% WRONG.

Interpret 'THREE or (3) 3 ohm DVC subs' however you want, you are still wrong......as here are BOTH possibilities, calculating dual-1.5's and dual-3's.....HELL, even dual-6ohm...however you may have thought:

6 ohm/coil
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12 + 12 + 12 = 4 ohms series/parallel.
3 + 3 + 3 = 9 ohms parallel/series.
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3 ohm/coil
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6 + 6 + 6 = 2 ohms series/parallel.
1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 4.5 ohms parallel/series.
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1.5 ohm/coil
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3 + 3 + 3 = 1 ohm series/parallel
.75 + .75 + .75 = 2.25 ohms parallel/series.


NEXT TIME, before giving advice, you should understand it better yourself.

Mr.DatSubishi

Sorry I parallel seriesed ALLAN! And paralleled everything to get .5 ohm. Looks like you were on that o e for about 4 hours. Good job. Oh and had to go back and edit it how many times? Thanks for the correction cool guy. GOOD JOB!

canuckerjay

This is great. . .I think I'm getting it. . .Your debate is actually quite helpful; and I truly appreciate all the advice given.

So, current needs stable, consistent resistance otherwise it's unstable/fluctuates?

The more resistance created by wiring in series, the lower the power?

The less resistance created by wiring in paralell, the higher the power to the subs?


Hmmm.

So, if the two subs I've got (again, 10" Type R Dual voice coil; each of the two coils on each sub is 2 ohms) are wired in parallel, can I then get it down to 1 ohm, which would then produce 425 RMS to each sub using the Kaption DZ 600.1?

Would that be stable? Can those subs/amp handle that setup?

Called Kaption's main office. Their tech guy said the amp can handle the 1 ohm load, but will probably only be throwing 325 RMS or so at each sub. He says he doesn't know if the subs will be able to handle that at 1 ohm.

Thoughts?

Mr.DatSubishi

Resistance, in ohms, always fluctuates when a sub is actually playing. Their advertised stats are at nominal rating. Where they sit when not played. Impedance only slightly dips below this while playing, but increases dramatically when playing music.

Your wiring does not necessarily mean more or less power, but final load on the amp is key to getting the most power out of it. If u put a 2 ohm load on most 1 ohm "stable" amps u end up with about 1/2 the amps power at 1 ohm. "stable" is the minimum impedance load u should put on an amp.

Your caption amp is 1 ohm stable, so it is safe to run 1 sub. If you take your two 1 ohm subs and parallel them together you end up with a 1/2 ohm amp load. If you take your twox 1 ohm subs and series them you will end up at an amp load of 2 ohms.

2 ohm amps are usually easier and cheaper to find.

Denonite

iTrader: (1)

"So, if the two subs I've got (again, 10" Type R Dual voice coil; each of the two coils on each sub is 2 ohms) are wired in parallel, can I then get it down to 1 ohm, which would then produce 425 RMS to each sub using the Kaption DZ 600.1?"

no the only configurations with those 2 subs is: .5 ohm (all coils parallel) amp not stable at that load, 2 ohms (2+2=4..4+4=2..series/parallel or 2+2=1...1+1=2..parallel/series), or
8 ohms (2+2=4...4+4=8...all coils in series).

my suggestion is to sell the amp and get a 2 ohm stable 1000 watt amp to power the subs.

Mr.DatSubishi

M1000 amp from Alpine or similar. ^x2

Allan74

iTrader: (-1)

Edited ONCE to add the word THREE ...so nice try genious....and don't flatter yourself, it was a 5 minute post and nothing more. COMPARE THE 2 POSTS.

Your explanation still does not make sense. Please share your math. I still believe you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

All this talk about halfing and doubling proves my point. Had you atleast mentioned INVERSE MULTIPLES, I may have believed you and let this rest.

QUIT GIVING WRONG ADVICE.

Mr.DatSubishi

All this talk about halfing and doubling proves my point.

QUIT GIVING WRONG ADVICE.[/QUOTE]

I guess if u run series, you don't double impedance. And if you parallel, you don't halve it.

And actually go look at the original post and you'll see that my math was exactly what we were talking about.

Thanks though.